<p>Professors will typically teach "up" at a school with higher level students. Teachers will test your knowledge to the extreme at competitive campuses because they know the vast majority of students know teh basics. This is why a more slective school would be more desireable than a relatively non-selective. An A is that much harder to obtain.</p>
<p>are you gonna respond to my last post?</p>
<p>are you a freshmen Mindgame? or transfer to SLO as arch?</p>
<p>anyone going to answer my last post?</p>
<p>sooo what happened? everything just died</p>
<p>Hey, I can help you share some information. I went to CSUFullerton for Accounting major and switch to Cal Poly Pomona for EE. Cal Poly Pomona is highly regarded in Southern California and some of the professors are from Cal Tech. Yeap. lots of my Math professors are from Cal Tech. The engineering school is top notch, in fact, I studied harder there than even a private college like BU/BC in Massachussetts. The two Cal Polies stress lab vs theory, you can't graduate unless you finish your Senior Project. CSLB is no where near the prestigue. Lots of good companies interview there. However, I dont know about any other program.
Accouting of CSUF is top notch, and most big 8/big 13(before the Enron) know this, however their Engineering program is not that great, but the Physics/Chemistry/Math are very good. Again, money is usually a factor, not grade/ability when student pick these schools.</p>
<p>Does CPPomona also require a senior project? I thought SLO was the only school.</p>
<p>some excellent observations. both roxygirl and susieQ reflect prevailing views about fullerton and pomona. it is well documented among southern california high school guidance counselors that fullerton in business, and particularly accounting, and pomona in engineering and architecture are elite programs. and giants is correct as well that professors are drawn to higher achieving classes and will raise the bar such as done at SLO, which is the academic flagship of the system. perhaps mindgame will grow out of the hubris and pay attention to the SLO president after high school is over. vyan, take note of the bird in the hand analogy. i would not go to a community college and then take my chances with such highly impacted programs. go visit faculty and discuss options with them or even students on the campus.</p>
<p>drj, thank you for all of the wonderful information. Too few people realize what gems the CSU's are. My daughter (hs junior) is investigating which ones would best serve her interests and hoping to not run up against an impacted campus (either for geographic or academic major reasons).</p>
<p>i was asked by a student to help out with these posts and am pleased to do so however and when i can. my wife and i are professors at different CSUs in different fields and a family member served as a college dean at SLO. we know administrators, faculty and deans at about twenty CSU campuses as well as at the CSU chancellor's office so we will base our observations on much more than personal opinions. most CSU campuses have little or no impacted programs but the better ones such as SLO, pomona, san diego and long beach do. that said, we know how to do workarounds sometimes.</p>
<p>Giants8307, yes but that was 20+ ago. My boy friend at the time graduate from UCLA summa cum laude did not know what a transistor look like, while at Cal Poly Pomona, for every class there is a separate lab. I was interviewed by brand name company like HP, IBM, DEC, Burroughs, etc..so Cal Poly Pomona is no slauch(sp?) otherwise these companies would not interview there.</p>
<p>Thanks for all your info Drj. My son will be attending CalPoly SLO for computer engineering. He was invited to apply to the honors program and did so. Do you know anything about the Honors program? Is it worth considering? A lot of other colleges offer priority registration for Honors students but I dont see any mention of such on CalPolys site and am hard pressed to see much advantage to the program.</p>
<p>each honors program in the system establishes its own rules. most offer certain benefits such as smaller class sizes, priority parking, specialized computer labs, honors seminar rooms, etc. the downside is that students also may be required to do more work and at a higher level. i would suggest you speak with the honors director and students. if the goal eventually is grad school then honors might be a good add if honors is notated on the transcript and diploma.</p>
<p>Perhaps Drj can answer this one: Are CSU admissions strictly stats driven? Is there any hope for an "almost meets" a particular CSU's stats to gain admission?</p>
<p>hi lady,
each admissions office maintains its own distinct rules. stats are the prevailing criterion but typically not the only one. for example, each CSU has "special admits" which implies those who don't meet the strict criteria such as SAT or GPA. let's say you have the child of a famous alumnus or donor or a potential star athlete who will "advance" that campus. for example, my sister-in-law was en route to graduate study at a large state university back east and i was able to get a negative admit turned around after some lobbying on a CSU campus. she graduated later with a 4.0. when demand far exceeds seat space you then get impacted programs which drives standards even higher for select majors and on certain campuses. that for example is what has happened on the two polytechnic campuses since so many of their majors are somewhat unique and highly popular.</p>
<p>There's actually an objective measurement of the "best" schools sharing comparable characteristics, which doesn't involve history, intentions, or anecdotal opinions of reputation. It's the stats of the students who enroll. This is sort of a capitalistic test - which school "sells" for more money (translated as GPA and test scores.)
By this test, the ranking is clear. Using the typical CSU as a base score of 100, the following ranking is what I get for the CSU's under discussion:
Cal Poly SLO - 124
SDSU - 113
CSU Long Beach - 109
Cal Poly Pomona - 107
Chico - 107</p>
<p>For comparison's sake, I calculate UC Riverside at 111, UC Santa Cruz at 115, UC Santa Barbara, Davis and Irvine all around 120.</p>
<p>Kluge- Interesting. Can you share the derivation of those numbers?</p>
<p>Yeah - 25th% SAT plus 75th% SAT plus GPA * 1000 per common data set for enrolled freshman most recent year - divided by 50. Typical CSU is 850 - 1050 - 3.1 - yields 100. Arbitrary weighting of SAT vs. GPA but gives a fair relative score and its quick and easy to do. (I'm home sick with nothing better to do...)</p>
<p>kluge, just curious...given your methodology which CSUs have the lowest scores?</p>
<p>kluge, in Southern California, Cal Poly Pomona has a good reputation, if you want to work locally. For example, the last 2 interviews I had recently at my company,I don't have to explain my school, etc.. People in the hiring position are from Cal Poly Pomona, talk about a strong alumni, especially for enginneering/computer engineering.
As for the post that Cal Poly SLO is not a sister school of Cal Poly Pomona. For engineering, I know they share similar program, that is why it's call sister, how many sister do you know that are identical? unless they are identical twins. But they do share on a lot of thing, for example,the Rose parade float is a work share by both Cal Polies.</p>
<p>susie, i was skeptical of your posts about how good cal poly pomona engineering is. i knew it was strong but unaware how much so. in particular, i wanted to see where the engineering faculty received their doctoral degrees since little is written about faculty and much is said about test scores and GPAs. not having a catalog i checked various online sources and here is the list of those schools that the greatest number of cal poly pomona faculty come from:</p>
<ol>
<li> MIT</li>
<li> Cal Tech</li>
<li> Princeton</li>
<li> Stanford</li>
<li> UC Berkeley</li>
</ol>
<p>while this was not a complete poll it surely sends a reaffirming message if you are studying there. it would be hard to put together a much better top five than this.</p>