Best Schools?

<p>by the WSJ, which is ther worst ranking out there</p>

<p>wait wait wait
kellogg is the best business school out there
and which is coincidentalyl the best ranking system out there
they take a huge number of factors into their system including recruitment stats, overall student experience and so forth</p>

<p>kellogg is more of a management/entrepeneurship school. wharton chicago stern stanford are more for finance-ibanking</p>

<p>ooo thanks
i really have no idea what i want to get into
can u tell me what is really the difference between all of them?</p>

<p>they are all great. obviously wharton is most famous and the oldest. stern and chicago are all about finance, kellogg is known for management,entreprenurship,marketing-the best at marketing supposedly. i don't know much about stanford. obviously, you can't go wrong by attending any of them, and if you are at northwestern, you are more than fine,. but i know that if you attend chicago stern or wharton that the finance dept will receiev most of the school's attention and funds, and i think northwestern is the opposite</p>

<p><a href="http://www.lehman.com/careers/calendar/Northwestern_University.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.lehman.com/careers/calendar/Northwestern_University.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.lazard.com/career_opportunities/campus_recruitment/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.lazard.com/career_opportunities/campus_recruitment/index.html&lt;/a>
I know for a fact that Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs recruits there.</p>

<p>Yes for every 1 Northwestern student there is mulltiple wharton kids but not stern.</p>

<p>You really don't lile Stern do you? You must've gotten rejected...</p>

<p>Quakerman, here is my original statement:</p>

<p>"I disagree with one part of quakerman's statement</p>

<p>For business, nyu stern MAY be ahead of NU, but overall I think NU is a great school and one would be very fortunate to attend such a fine university. I think the fact that I'm applying to NU and not applying to Stern says something as I have done my fair share of research into various colleges and I plan on becoming an investment banker right out of college."</p>

<p>Now I totally agree with you. Stern is an amazing school and you will be well served as a graduate there. However I did not say NU was better than Stern or vice versa, I merely said NU is also a great school and I plan on applying to NU as opposed to Stern for my own personal reasons. Again, there is nothing wrong with Stern and if I were able to apply to more than 6 private schools (my school has a cap), I would definitely consider Stern. One thing I do disagree with is your statement that NU will only send 1 – 5 students to Ibanks. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.northwestern.edu/careers/Graduation_Survey/2003%20Graduation%20Survey--Undergrad%20student%20responses.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.northwestern.edu/careers/Graduation_Survey/2003%20Graduation%20Survey--Undergrad%20student%20responses.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Count them up if you wish, I don’t have time. But on a quick run through I happen to see quite a few more than 1 – 5.</p>

<p>Quakerman:
"You really don't lile Stern do you? You must've gotten rejected..."</p>

<p>I'm not sure who that's directed at, but I myself am a HS student, as is Mahras. And who said we don't like Stern. You simply made a couple of claims we felt were inaccurate (see below) and seeing as how many other HS students will come to CC as a guide for their future, we felt we needed to clear some issues up.</p>

<p>In this thread you said:
“Relative to the schools I mentioned, Northwestern doesn't place too well.”</p>

<p>This is true. Relative to Stern I cannot say NU is a breeding ground for Ibanks. However that does not mean you should automatically put NU out of the running as a potential school if you would like to be an Ibanker in the future. As I have said numerous times before, I myself am applying to NU over Stern for various reasons and while Stern’s recruiting numbers appeal to me, those numbers are not the number one factor in choosing one’s undergraduate experience. The link I have posted shows that NU can hold it’s own. </p>

<p>You also said:
“Also, going to nortwestern won't be that good for ibanking. it's not a targeted school by the top ibanksa ndf at most 1-5 people a year will land those jobs, to be honest with you.”</p>

<p>Mahras’ links have refuted this.</p>

<p>Quakerman:
What I’m trying to say is this. I do not dislike Stern. In fact I love Stern and I plan on visiting sometime before my school year ends. I am merely saying that NU is not, as you claim, a non-Ibank-targeted school. You can in fact go to NU and become an Ibanker if you so wish. Both are excellent schools in this respect. If you believe that attending NU will hurt your chances as a potential Ibanker based on their recruiting numbers alone, you are entitled to your opinion and I do not know whether that is true or not because of the numerous factors involved. I for one do not place all my eggs into the basket that is recruiting numbers. However, I do believe that attending NU will provide a great liberal arts education and experience. It would also be a nice break from NYC (I live there btw) and the number of opportunities NU offers astounds me. I’m interested in a number of things after undergrad. Business School, Law School, Public Policy, Education, all of these appeal to me. Attending NU seems to be my best bet and I do not believe picking NU over Stern will hurt me in my primary goal, becoming an Ibanker. In fact I believe it will open a lot more doors for me in the future, especially when I am ready for Graduate School.</p>

<p>hehe I am not even applying let alone get rejected. ;). And my school is a feeder to Stern (this specialized NYC high schools). Most people who apply to the Ivies actually use Stern as a low Match high safety.</p>

<p>this is all unnecessary conversation</p>

<p>wharton is better than stern which is better than northwestern undergrad econ</p>

<p>thanks and have a nice day</p>

<p>I was reponding to mahras. Northwestern is a greast school and will provide a great education for you-congrats on getting it. It just peeves me when HS seniors try to tell college GRADUATES about things they've never went through (interviewing, recruiting, college acdemics). Give yourself 4 yrs and mahras will see what an idiot he is sounding like right now. Don't worry, i was the same too at 17</p>

<p>It is hard to call someone an idiot when you just said that 1-5 Northwestern grads get jobs in i-banks.</p>

<p>Ok, how many Northwestern students do you think are entering the Goldman or Morgan Stanley ibanking class this yr?</p>

<p>Since when were goldman sachs and morgan stanley the only investment banks out there?</p>

<p>They are the elite and thus, hire from the top of the top-this would serve as an indicator of how Northwestern, WUSTL et al are viewed outside of the sphere of USNEWS</p>

<p>haha the funny part is quakerguy tries to make himself feel more credible by saying he is a "college graduate". Why don't you back your statements up with credible links or sources? Or didn't your "college education" teach you to justify your statements. Don't make yourself feel important.</p>

<p>do you realize how stupid you sound right now?</p>

<p>Quakerman, you said:
I was reponding to mahras. Northwestern is a greast school and will provide a great education for you-congrats on getting it. It just peeves me when HS seniors try to tell college GRADUATES about things they've never went through (interviewing, recruiting, college acdemics). Give yourself 4 yrs and mahras will see what an idiot he is sounding like right now. Don't worry, i was the same too at 17</p>

<p>I am not a HS senior, I'm a Junior. My age should not (and does not) have anything to do with my argument. Again as I have stated before, Stern is an excellent school for IB, however, NU is not altogether out of the running. There are many opportunities at NU that in my mind more than make up for their less than stellar recruiting numbers. Also it is important to note that most Stern graduates know they want to be Ibers. Many of them study finance and many of them are very well prepared to handle IB. Most NU grads are not like Stern grads. They aren't locked into IBanking and are not looking for the best possible way to get into Ibanking. If you were an Ibank where would you recruit more? The obvious answer is Stern where a large number of students are interested in Finance and Ibanking and have the vocational training to excel there. You have to agree that the percentage of students that want IB at NU is nowhere near as large as that of Stern. It only makes sense that an Ibank will recruit at Stern where they will have more skilled candidates to choose from. Now some NU grads will decide that Ibanking is right for them. These NU grads are not screwed at all. Ibanks still recruit at NU as seen in Mahras’ links. You do not lose the opportunity to join an Ibank at NU.</p>

<p>One may ask, why am I personally looking at NU over Stern. Well for one I am applying to both business schools and nonbusiness schools. Obviously I would be studying Economics at the nonbschools. However of the schools I am applying to, I would prefer to attend Uchicago, NU, and Cornell AEM. Note that 2 of those 3 are for econ, not business. I do not necessarily prefer Econ > Ugrad Business, but it’s more that these programs in Chicago (both Chicago and NU) are top notch and the opportunities they provide will not lose out to schools like Stern, etc. These schools are equal in their postgrad opportunities and any difference is negligible and, in my opinion, more so due to the quality of students in a particular class than the quality of the institution (as all these schools are top notch). I also value a liberal arts education. I’ve heard many who believe that attending Bschool would be a waste if you plan on getting your MBA, as I plan to do. I do not necessarily think it’s a waste but there are valid points to that argument, points I do not need to discuss. I also value a degree in economics because it will help me prepare for a possible law degree as well as a possible PhD in economics or perhaps financial engineering. There are many things I wish to do. I may also want to attend graduate school in education. The various opportunities I have with an econ degree is vast, as opposed to the opportunities with an undergrad bschool degree which may restrict me. However as I have said there are pros to attending bschool undergrad as I am doing. I want to go into IB and bschools will definitely help that cause. Bschools will also provide me an education that is fun and practical. But as I have stated all along, for me a liberal arts education may trump a bschool education but I will definitely be happy with both.</p>

<p>1 important point: you can major in econ at Stern or Wharton. So, you get all the benfits of the econ major at NU plus you can take business courses, which you cannot at NU. Also, the business courses take up about 1.5-2yrs, so you essentially have 2 yrs or so for liberal arts courses and to minor in the liberal arts. So basically with the business education you can pursue many liberal arts courses and even minors, but not the other way around. Keep this all in mind.</p>