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<p>Just a quick question, where did you go if you did not go to Stern. I assume from your name that you went to Wharton? IF so are still a student there? What's up?</p>

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<p>I graduated 4 yrs ago and will be entering grad school this year</p>

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<p>I;m guessing you don't want to say where you graduated from and where you are going for grad school.</p>

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<p>Quakerman, I think you actually has lost in this debate to these high school kids...not to mention all the name calling you couldn't refrain from. I am not necessarily saying what they said were correct; but at least they tried to back up their arguments with data/links/sources. You complained that they talked about stuffs they actually haven't experienced themselves. Well, you can learn a lot by just researching and talking to others too. Anyway, by the same token, you should have reserached on NU's curriculum and recruitment data before putting apparently baseless statements like "only 1-5 people get into IBs"...etc. Judging by the ED stats I saw for Stern, it's no more difficult than getting into Northwestern. You can save all those "Stern reject" comments.</p>

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<p>Back to the original question:</p>

<p>Best Schools? </p>

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<p>So what do you all think the best colleges for undergraduate business are?
To pursue a career in finance.. would it be better to go into an undergraduate business program or just study economics at a top ivy league or something?
Where is everyone applying?
I applied to: UPenn Wharton, Cornell AEM, UMich, NYU Stern, Dartmouth, Duke, USC, UCBerkeley, BU, Penn State</p>

<p>***would it be better to go into an undergraduate business program or just study economics at a top ivy league or something? </p>

<p>*I think we touched upon some of these issues, both can get you into the same programs and it really is what you make of it.</p>

<p>***Where is everyone applying?
I applied to: UPenn Wharton, Cornell AEM, UMich, NYU Stern, Dartmouth, Duke, USC, UCBerkeley, BU, Penn State</p>

<p>*I'm only a HS Junior but my list looks something like: NU, UChicago, Cornell AEM. UMich, CMU Tepper, Emory, UPenn Wharton ED only if my scores come out the way I want them to ;) other wise Dartmouth or Williams, and SUNY Bing.</p>

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<p>I think it is virtually impossible to gauge the relative recruiting strength at Wharton, Stern, and Northwestern. Every firm that recruits at Wharton also recruits at Stern and also recruits at Northwestern. So if you go to any of those three schools you will have a similar chance of landing a job. It's no secret that Wharton and Stern are huge feeds to investment banks; they have developed this pipeline over time. However, as someone previously sad, Northwestern doesn't have the same over-population of IB aspiring students as the aforementioned business schools, thus they would send as many people. (The program that feeds the most IB'ers out of Northwestern is the Mathematical Methods in the Social Sciences joint major). </p>

<p>But it's really impossible to tell because we don't know how many people wanted a job at an IB and how many people actually got that job so we have to go on the basis that they are all three great schools and either one provides a great opportunity for investment banking.</p>

<p>And for being a "college graduate," quakerman, you sure aren't very well versed on the top investment banks. There is MUCH more than just Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. In fact, there are investment banks that outperform GS/MS in many areas of investment banking. If you need a refresher: <a href="http://www.vault.com/nr/finance_rankings/finance_rankings.jsp?finance2005=2%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.vault.com/nr/finance_rankings/finance_rankings.jsp?finance2005=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Why anyone not to mention LACS strong at biz, like... BUCKNELL?</p>

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<p>I'm sorry, I haven't heard of Bucknell and I can't really comment. However most would agree that Bucknell is not in the league that Amherst, Williams, and Swarthmore are in. Even though AWS don't offer business majors, one would be better off going to these schools than Bucknell in terms of job placement. You may or may not agree.</p>

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<p>ouch man..just because you haven't heard of bucknell doesnt mean you can assume it will get worse job placement? what the hell? as long as you do well at a school you can go wherever you want--whether its hardvard, university of florida, william and mary, or alabama...but if you havent even heard of something...dont start talking crap---open up a college book or something ,Top 25 liberal arts university thanks</p>

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<p>Getreall411:</p>

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<p>You are definately correct. As long as you do well at a school, you can do whatever you want to do. However, the institution is a big deal for opening doors. If you were a Fortune 500 company, where would you spend a day of recruiting at, Amherst or Bucknell?</p>

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<p>Again I'm not disrespecting Bucknell, I'm just making an observation. If you believe going to Bucknell over Amherst will help you in terms of JOB PLACEMENT, well, you can believe whatever the hell you want to believe. Just don't go around flaming others because you think some ******** US NEWS ranking determines job placement. You may disagree and that's fine, but you don't have to tell me to "stop talking crap" because I'm making a mere observation and an opinion.</p>

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<p>Amherst will beat out Bucknell in terms of job placement. Its just a fact that institutions are prestige whore. Think about it, when an IB wants to underwrite i dont know, a Japanese company. Wouldnt it make a company more secure if a bank comes to them and says "yeah 80% of our employees went to Harvard, Wharton, Stanford, NYU, etc.." instead of "we have people from Bucknell, Colgate, U of Alabama, etc." Im not saying these schools are bad in any way, but this is the way that these financial institutions think.</p>

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<p>Getreal411:</p>

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<p>I don't agree with using US NEWS rankings to "rank" schools but if you say so, where is Amherst on that list anyway? Where is Bucknell? If you are going to use USNEWS to make a point, you have to agree then by USNEWS' standards, Amherst beats out Bucknell. Top 3 liberal arts college thanks.</p>

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<p>well usnews i think is good for SOMETHING even though rankings do not matter entirely they still do a pretty good job gauging a college's "worth"
i do not think there is a big if any difference between say the top 5 colleges or top 10 even but once u start getting around the 15 ranks and beyond its hard to compare them with number 1; ie. top 25 does not mean sh-t</p>

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<p>well as it goes, 1-Harvard, 2- Stanford, 3- U Penn. I really dont see the prupose in bickering among which business school is better. I mean if you graduate from any of the top 10 B-schools you are most likely to get a salary of $ 90,000 or more in your first year, not chump change by any means</p>

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<p>LCDavisL, we are talking about UNDERGRADUATE business programs, not graduate business programs. In fact, Harvard and Stanford do not have any ugrad business schools.</p>

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<p>oh, got ya</p>

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<p>LCDavid, Harvard can make a serious case for being #1, although Kellogg and Wharton make better cases. But Stanford is a mythical school that industry does not think that highly of. It is still a top 7 or 8 MBA program, but I would not rate it #2.</p>

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<p>i applied, and was accepted to, stern last year. instead, i ended up at the university of maryland and the r.h. smith school of business. it's been amazing. the main reasons i turned down stern were that it's very cutthroat and competitive (something i'll be dealing with enough in my life without having to worry about it in college when i should be able to have a good time) and its emphasis on going to grad school.</p>

<p>smith has been wonderful. it's state-of-the-art (the building itself is only a few years old and they're constantly updating the technology) and the professors are great. even the TA's know their stuff. when i visited, my dad said that the things that they emphasize--a well-rounded business education, cross-functional courses, and practical knowledge--are the things that employers are looking for. they also have a business honors program and a number of special programs to get involved in.</p>

<p>other than that, maryland is (obviously) much less expensive than NYU, and i didn't feel like making the transition to a cutthroat school in a big city (moving from a small town) would go easily. but that's a personal issue for me.</p>

<p>i know it's easy to get stuck in the WHARTON-STERN-ETC. mode, but look outside the box. maryland, uva, penn state....all have amazing business schools too. check them out. :)</p>

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<p>Robert H. Smith is def a good school and on the way up. Well respected here in the state and many of my bro's friends ended up in NYC. Not everyone can get into Wharton, Stern, Michigan etc. But if you bust your butt at a decent school, you will do well.
GoodLuck.</p>

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<p>I have applied and been accepted to....</p>

<ul>
<li>PSU Smeal- + Schreyer Honors College</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>USC Marshall</li>
<li>Case Western Weatherhead</li>
<li>Washington and Lee- Williams School</li>
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<p>Still pending at</p>

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<li>Duke</li>
<li>UNC Kenan Flagler</li>
<li>UT McCombs + Business Honors Program</li>
<li>UVA McIntire</li>
<li>CMU Tepper</li>
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<p>I am a candidate for a full scholarship at Emory, Washington and Lee, and USC. Because I also want to go into Public Policy, I am somewaht leaning towards USC at this point. Any advice or experience to share to help me make a decision?</p>