<p>No, they still have the '06 freshman class up on their site. I was told the '07 numbers by someone in the know--although I think they have been detailed in a few news articles.</p>
<p>I also know that in '07, many students in the 26-27 ACT range were rejected if the the rest of their application (particularly class rank) was average.</p>
<p>It's no longer even debatable whether Ohio State or Miami of Ohio is the more selective public school in Ohio.</p>
<p>As far as the Big Ten goes, looking at the whole picture, I'd order the schools as such</p>
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<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>Ohio State (probably will catch up, if not overtake, PSU in '07)</li>
<li>Minnesota (also seems to be improving their numbers dramatically)</li>
<li>Iowa</li>
<li>Purdue</li>
<li>Michigan State</li>
<li>Indiana (the only Big Ten school that USN&WR classifies as "selective" rather than "more selective" or "most selective")</li>
</ol>
<p>Those probably are the accepted numbers for OSU--not the enrolled numbers which will be much lower. Being on the quarter system they won't have enrolled numbers until September.</p>
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<p>How is that indicative of it's academic quality? Admissions selectivity does not = academic quality. Look more towards the peer assessment and research rankings to determine the school's academic quality, not the admissions.</p>
<p>Where is the huge difference there that warrants Indiana being "Selective" compared to the other two schools being "More Selective"? </p>
<p>Look at the peer assessment ratings, they are much more indicative of the academic quality of each institution. Acceptance Rates and Test Ranges are more about the quality of the student body that what the professors teach:</p>
<p>Michigan - 4.5
Northwestern - 4.4
Wisconsin - 4.2
Illinois - 4.0
Indiana - 3.8
Minnesota - 3.8
Penn State - 3.8
Purdue - 3.8
Ohio State - 3.7
Iowa - 3.6
Michigan State - 3.5</p>
<p>As I said before, it really doesn't matter when you get to the bottom 6-7. There are certain schools that have specialties in different subjects. It comes down to who either has a strength in the program you are interested, who has the environment you are interested in, or just simple tuition. If you are a sports nut, some schools have phenomenal football programs. Others have great basketball programs. Some are in big cities. Others are in rural towns. Minnesota and Wisconson have reciprocity agreements with each other. Minnesota is part of the Midwest Student Exchange Program. Indiana, Michigan State, Iowa, and Ohio State all offer significant scholarships to OOS students. </p>
<p>It is a waste of time to argue whether one school is better than another, because there are so many confounding factors that need to be taken into consideration and one person's list will look different than someone else's.</p>
<p>No, they're definately the enrolled numbers. The accepted numbers were 67% in the top tenth; 95% in the top quarter and an average ACT of just under 30.</p>
<p>Quarters or semesters, it doesn't matter at this point. Every school has enrolled numbers by now based upon deposits. Any subsequent fluctuations would be minor and could go either way.</p>
<p>The numbers are NOT WRONG. Did you actually follow and read my posts?</p>
<p>The numbers that I are posted are for the 2007 freshman class. I clearly stated that those numbers are not up on the official site, but that I--through the development office--received an e-mail detailing them. They have also been confirmed in several news articles in Ohio newspapers. 2007 applications to Ohio State were up 22% and up 50% among students with 32+ ACT scores, hence the drop in acceptance rate and jump in quality of both the accepted and enrolled classes.</p>
<p>The numbers that you posted are for the enrolled 2006 class. That is what is up on Ohio State's website. You can also confirm it against the numbers on Princeton Review's site or on Friday with the new USN&WR. If you delve a little deeper into Ohio State's site, you can also find the official common data set showing that your numbers are for the enrolled 2006 freshman class.</p>
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Look at the peer assessment ratings, they are much more indicative of the academic quality of each institution. Acceptance Rates and Test Ranges are more about the quality of the student body that what the professors teach:
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<p>Otoh, PA is more about research output than quality of teaching.</p>
<p>And don't overlook the importance of the quality of student body - as students spend much more time interacting with their peers than they do with their profs (nevermind compete with them in the classroom).</p>
<p>Yes, let's believe the "I don't have a link, but I have an e-mail!" guy. Give me a break. You have no evidence, you're just spewing information that you claim to have in a mysterious e-mail. I can guarantee you that when the numbers are updated on the O$U website that they aren't the same as you are saying.</p>
<p>Actually A2, I know what he's talking about. I don't attend a Big 10 school, so I'm pretty unbiased on this one. Most universities send current students emails with the profile of their most recently admitted class once they are done evaluating students. This is sent often months before it appears on their website. For example, I knew on May 7, 2007, what the freshman profile for the class of 2011 was at Berkeley, even though it wasn't on the website until just recently (if it's even up yet, I haven't checked, but it wasn't as of last month). It's one of the benefits of being a student at the university.</p>
<p>Accepted numbers are pretty meaningless. More people could be using OSU as a safety. When enrolled data comes out that is what goes in the CDS and US News.</p>
<p>Those are the enrolled numbers, not the accepted numbers. I don't know why the university uses the phrase "admitted" as it is misleading. I guess they consider it those actually physically admitted into the freshman class. They, however, used the same wording for the 2006 class, which matched up exactly with both the published common data set and the enrolled numbers reported by both Princeton Review and USN&WR. </p>
<p>For what it's worth, earlier this year, Ohio newspapers were reporting the "accepted students" as having an average ACT of just over 30, with 67% in the top 10% of their h.s. class and 95% in the top quarter.</p>
<p>I agree that the nomenclature is misleading. However, those are the enrolled numbers.</p>
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<p>That's comparing apples to oranges. The Common Data Set figures are based on the ENROLLED class, which is always but a subset of the admitted class. It's only fair to each college to compare the same class--the enrolled class--among the various colleges. </p>
<p>"why is big10?? is it just because of the size??"</p>
<p>Big 10 is the reference to the sports conference they are in. For a long time there were ten Midwest universities in it -- 9 publics and one private (Northwestern) and then PennState was added to make 11 schools but the conference name remained the same.</p>
<p>I'll say it again, what Ohio State calls the "admitted class" is not the "accepted class" but the actual enrolled freshman class. </p>
<p>The link provided on college search was for the 2006 class, which are the same numbers that were in Ohio State's common data set and also reported as the enrolled class by both Princeton Review and USN&WR. Those are also the exact same numbers that Ohio State had up on its website until this week as the "admitted class" for 2006.</p>
<p>The way to get information that is comparable from one college to another is to go to a consortium site (e.g., the College Board site) and see what the same source, using the same data definitions, says about each college.</p>
<p>What makes any school the best varies upon many different factors and should be individual to the person who is asking. What do you plan to major in? Urban? Suburban? Rural? Size? Campus atmosphere? Greek importance? Sports importance? And on and on. </p>
<p>As a graduate of 2 of these institutions, I can say I got an excellent education at each. And I have no doubt you can get an excellent education at any of them. You just have to find the right one for you. (The "rankings" don't really matter.)</p>