<p>^ Reminds me of that scene in the 1984 movie “Revenge of the Nerds” where the Fraternity senate run by the Alpha Betas turns down the Tri Lams… but reverse: Alpha Betas = UNL; Lambda, Lambda, Lambda = Michigan and Wisconsin.</p>
<p>You know Sparkeye, a Big 12 with Notre Dame just might work. I agree that to attract the Irish, the confernce would likely have to let ND have a free hand in its own network deal. Like Texas TV deal, it’s a bit unfair, but as a conference on life support this may be a mutually beneficial situation for the Big 12. And unlike a southwestern team joining the PAC-12, there is some tradition between Notre Dame and Texas. A replay of the Earl Campbell vs. Joe Montana glory [Bowl] days.</p>
<p>Also, the more I think about this interesting state of affairs in college football today, and the animosity surronding the Longhorn Network $$$ deal, the more I postulate that UTexas may go the independent route like Notre Dame and Brigham Young. If UTexas was smart, they would make an accommodation or two to keep the Big 12 viable.</p>
<p>^ B1G would be ****ed if ND decided to go to the Big 12 and that would be a big coup for Beebe.</p>
<p>ND and UT need to decide what’s best for their future: better off in a MLB-style conference model where the big city teams hold most power, or an NFL conference model where revenue sharing increases competition and possible stability.</p>
<p>I’m surprised Al Gore and his carbon footprint clan haven’t demanded that ND join the Big 10. Just think how much fuel will be wasted if ND joins any conference except the one it’s right in the middle of.</p>
<p>“Reminds me of that scene in the 1984 movie “Revenge of the Nerds” where the Fraternity senate run by the Alpha Betas turns down the Tri Lams… but reverse: Alpha Betas = UNL; Lambda, Lambda, Lambda = Michigan and Wisconsin.”</p>
<p>There were a lot of schools that wanted UNL out of the AAU, not just Michigan and Wisconsin. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Cal were among them. Many pundits out there keep saying that Michigan is no longer among the elite in college football. Well, I guess Nebraska isn’t among the elite in higher edcuation anymore either. If Nebraska wants back into the AAU, just like Michigan getting back into BCS football discussions , they’re going to have to earn it.</p>
<p>^ Perhaps that’s true. I don’t know how my alma mater voted. However, IMHO, it seemed like semantics…UNL has a separate medical school campus (a la Cal and Texas) and does a lot of agricultural research (a la UC Davis, UC’s original farm school) that aren’t counted in the school’s totals.</p>
<p>“Your request has been denied”… ;)</p>
<p>Speaking of football, it would be funny if UT decides to go independent and has a run of irrelevancy like they did in the '80s and '90s…a la Notre Dame.</p>
<p>Hmm… In the midst of all the expansion talk, Gee is making a trip down to ‘ATM’ next week?! Scandalous imho, since Gee was the envoy whom Delany sent secretly in talk with U of Texas last year during the expansion!!</p>
<p>Furthermore, besides cutting the tie with the BIG 12, ATM did not specify which conference to bolt to after last week’s denied invitation by the SEC. I wonder…</p>
<p>[Ohio</a> State President To Speak In Conjunction With Academic Convocation | TAMUtimes](<a href=“http://tamutimes.tamu.edu/2011/09/06/ohio-state-president-to-speak-in-conjunction-with-academic-convocation/]Ohio”>http://tamutimes.tamu.edu/2011/09/06/ohio-state-president-to-speak-in-conjunction-with-academic-convocation/)</p>
<p>Could it be possible that Delany is fulfilling his original intention of expanding conference’s southern footprint by adding ATM & OU in order to force Texas & ND’s hand?.. </p>
<p>One thing for certain is that SEC, B1G as well as PAC-12 all want a piece of TEXAS!! lol</p>
<p>^ Hmmm…gotta love internet rumors. Haha!</p>
<p>Story Highlights:</p>
<p>If Aggies get SEC invitation today, they will accept as early as tomorrow</p>
<p>If another league expands, the Pac-12 will be more likely to move as well</p>
<p>[Texas</a> A&M-to-SEC could happen Wednesday; then dominoes fall - Andy Staples - SI.com](<a href=“http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/09/06/realignment/]Texas”>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/09/06/realignment/)</p>
<p>^ Yes. Conference expansion game is in SEC’s hands. It either expands to renegotiate its TV contract or stands pat and Aggy looks foolish.</p>
<p>“Although Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany recently said in published reports the possible expansion of the Pac-12 does not change his league’s approach or timetable for any expansion, several sources said the Big Ten is interested in Maryland of the ACC.”</p>
<p>Read more: [Big</a> East could add Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri - NYPOST.com](<a href=“Big East could add Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri”>Big East could add Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri)</p>
<p>So, I guess B1G might add Maryland + BC + Rutgers and ND to 16; whereas PAC-12 might add OU, OSU, TTech and Texas. ATM to SEC followed by FSU, Clemson & Vtech.</p>
<p>"SEC in process of making decision on Aggies</p>
<p>COLLEGE STATION The Southeastern Conference board of directors are meeting this evening, according to reports, to vote on accepting Texas A&M. The Aggies are expected to easily receive the necessary amount of votes to become the leagues 13th member in time for the 2012 season.</p>
<p>An announcement from Aggieland that A&M will join the SEC is expected as soon as Wednesday. The Aggies last Wednesday announced that they intended to exit the Big 12 following a 16-year run."</p>
<p>[SEC</a> in process of making decision on Aggies | Aggies | a Chron.com blog](<a href=“http://blog.chron.com/aggies/2011/09/sec-in-process-of-making-decision-on-aggies/]SEC”>http://blog.chron.com/aggies/2011/09/sec-in-process-of-making-decision-on-aggies/)</p>
<p>I like this: ;p</p>
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<p>^ Too funny, Sparkeye! </p>
<p>I wish this board would allow us to get more creative…</p>
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I think Kansas and Mizzou would be riper pickings than Maryland and BC.</p>
<p>But $$$ is trumping historic rivalries and geographic logic.</p>
<p>Tonight is the night before Christmas for the Aggies worldwide!!</p>
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<p>All the Aggie Fans are holding their breath as we speak! If this deal goes through in the next few hours, it will serve as the initiation of “Seismic Change” which should lead to the formation of Super Conferences that Delany was referring to last year. Go Aggies!!! lol</p>
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<p>Mizzou is rather likely (if the B1G invites them, they would accept), but meh Im not really feeling it. Missouri brings ok athletics to the table, with football being above-average and basketball being ok. St. Louis as a market is it really a big enough reason to add Missouri? </p>
<p>On the other hand, I would like to see the B1G add Kansas. Fairly comparable to Mizzou in a lot of aspects. Kansas is mediocre at football but they are a perennial basketball power. I think their basketball program could lead to more viewers and the expansion of the Big Ten Network (so more money and this is really what all of this is all about). It is a bit of a risk though, Mizzou is in a bigger state and would have a little more clout, but IIRC the BTN is already in St. Louis so I guess a reason to add Mizzou would be to get closer to some ripe with talent Big 12 states?</p>
<p>BUT theres politics. Much like Texass Tech problem, Kansas has a K-State problem. Apparently the Kansas State legislature will not allow Kansas to leave without taking Kansas State to the new conference. Apparently it is the same way with Oklahoma, OKie State. </p>
<p>So, if it comes down to it, I would love to see Kansas added over Mizzou, but it looks like it might not be as easy as it seems. </p>
<p>A lot of Big Ten fans still want Texas. Ehhh, no thanks. Especially with UTs new Longhorn Network. Texas would be nice in theory, but theyre poison. Look at their current conference. And with the LHN, they appear to be setting to go Independent, but who knows. </p>
<p>So personally I dont want them anywhere near the Big Ten, but I wouldnt mind Ohio State calling them up to schedule another Home and Home with them!</p>
<p>Notre Dame might be a more realistic get. Its right in the heart of Big Ten country, they have the academics, etc </p>
<p>But they usually thumb their nose at a Big Ten offer, and Ive heard that Delany is ready to give them the finger if they want in (when it comes to 16 team superconferences and you basically need to join a conference).
On the other hand. ND football would be a huge network splash. I would imagine they would let ND honor their current NBC contract, but after that they would be like every other member on the BTN. They might balk at that though, so who knows. </p>
<p>But maybe coming to the Big Ten will help them on their quest to Return to Glory, version 7 ;)</p>
<p>So, Texas is likely out and I would rather not have them. Others like BC and Maryland have been mentioned and are strong contenders. </p>
<p>Ill throw a curveball out there and add Georgia Tech to the mix. No they are not a football power, but they bring a decent basketball program and good basketball program, along with solid academics and more importantly a brand new market, Atlanta.
They were rumored about a year ago when expansion talks first started to heat up and were brushed away, mainly due to distance. But I think that is exactly what the Big Ten wants, a bigger foot print. Yes Atlanta is far away from other B1G cities, but its not THAT far, especially when some people want to add Texas.
Plus it would get us into the heart of the SEC (where they host their conference championship game haha) and playing in GA should help teams that will want to recruit there. </p>
<p>So for me, my wishlist IFF the Big Ten has to expand consists of the following. </p>
<ol>
<li><p>Notre Dame. Solid all around, biggest home run. Football team is down but they attract audiences and would bring the New York City market, which would make bringing in Rutgers or Syracuse pointless at that point. </p></li>
<li><p>Georgia Tech. Yes it is a little far, but I think it is doable. Good academics, great location/market, solid/decent sports teams. This would greatly expand the Big Tens footprint and would invade into SEC territory, which Im sure they will love.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>The other two arent as clear for me. Id like to pick two schools from the list of Maryland, UVa, UNC, Duke, Kansas, BC, perhaps a few others.
Some of those were far out there (Duke and UNC). I dont think Duke and UNC would want to leave the ACC, and not too mention each other if one leaves and the other doesnt. However, the writing is kind of on the wall for the ACC. The SEC is going to raid the ACC so the ACC is probably going to cherry pick teams from the Big East to replace them. But with that being said, the ACC would go ahead and create a basketball super conference.
Those two are unlikely to happen, I know. But hey, its my wishlist!</p>
<p>UVa would be nice from an academic point of view. Solid in some sports as well. Could tap into the DC market as well. But they appeared to be tied at the hip with VaTech. Which IMO wouldnt be that bad of a fit for the Big Ten. But Adding two VA schools probably doesnt make too much sense in the grand scheme of things. </p>
<p>Maryland would work. Good academics, inside the Beltway to give us the DC market and probably the Baltimore one as well. I can see this one being a reality, especially if the ACC does get raided by the SEC. </p>
<p>BC would likely be another one that is interesting. Far away, perhaps worse off than Atlanta, but it would give us the New England market. But is BC football even that big of a deal in the northeast? Solid academics though. </p>
<p>All right, Im done rambling for now. I dont really like the thought of conference expansion but I feel like it is imminent on the college horizon and the Big Ten might as well not be left behind.</p>
<p>This cracks me up!! :D</p>
<p>[SEC</a> Guy Take on Texas A&M - YouTube](<a href=“SEC Guy Take on Texas A&M - YouTube”>SEC Guy Take on Texas A&M - YouTube)</p>
<p>I see no reason BC would go with the Big 10, with the possible exception of them getting in a division with Notre Dame. BC fits the ACC sports profile better than the Big 10 profile, and folks in the Northeast seem to respect the leaner ACC academic lineup over the bloated Big 10 academic profile (the Big 10 does academics sort of like the Soviet Army did land warfare during WWII).</p>
<p>I still want to see Vandy and Georgetown in the ACC.</p>
<p>September 7, 2011</p>
<p>Chip Brown
Orangebloods.com Columnist</p>
<p>Talk about it in Inside the 40 Acres
Hold everything folks.</p>
<p>The Southeastern Conference presidents met Tuesday night and voted to admit Texas A&M. But the vote came with a stipulation that still must be worked out.</p>
<p>The SEC presidents voted to admit Texas A&M as the 13th member of that league so long as each individual member of the Big 12 waives its right to litigation against the SEC.</p>
<p>And it was unclear Tuesday night if all nine remaining members of the Big 12 would waive that right, sources said. The Big 12 schools were expected to discuss the matter on Wednesday, sources said. That’s the same day Texas A&M has planned a celebration in College Station to announce its admission into the SEC, sources said.</p>
<p>If even one of the Big 12 schools refuse to waive their right to sue the SEC over its courtship of Texas A&M, the SEC could withdraw its vote to admit A&M, sources said.</p>
<p>After letters were exchanged by SEC commissioner Mike Slive and Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe Tuesday, Beebe told Slive the Big 12 conference office had waived its right to litigate against Texas A&M or the SEC but that the Big 12’s waiver was not binding on the individual members of the Big 12, sources said.</p>
<p>The SEC indicated it would admit Texas A&M only upon condition that each individual member of the Big 12 waive its right to sue the SEC, sources said.</p>
<p>And that condition was in doubt Tuesday night, sources said.</p>
<p>Stay tuned.</p>
<p>Source: [TexAgs.com</a> - A&M Football](<a href=“http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1908439&page=16&forum_id=5]TexAgs.com”>SEC presidents meeting | TexAgs)</p>
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<p>What the hell does that mean?</p>