Binghamton or Penn State

Colleges and Universities A-Z Binghamton University - SUNY
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<p>Bdmet2491,</p>

<p>I am sorry my posts offended you. As I have shown PSU's superior academic rankings, identical application standards, and larger name recognition/alumni networking, I know that must have put questions in your mind about whether you really made the right choice. I don't understand your insults of Penn State, as I have not been insulting Binghamton, merely just stating how it compares to Penn State UP.</p>

<p>As for the "go make some friends" comment, which was pretty classy, I doubt I would take advice about "getting a life" from someone that spends his friday night on College Confidential at 10 pm insulting people...</p>

<p>Of course you are.</p>

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<p>"and i hear binghamton has the highest suicide rates."</p>

<p>I beg you to back that up with a real statistics. That my friend, is an an absolutely ludicrous statement. "Heard" is the code word for bull $hit.</p>

<p>And I agree with SuperMarioJ, both are phenomenal schools and its up the individual to pick the right fit.</p>

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<p>I agree that overall Penn State is still considered a more prestigious (or higher ranked) state school than Binghamton due to national recognized academic departments, name recognition (a national ranked football program is one component of that) alumni network and campus atmosphere. Still Binghamton partly due to the size difference clearly as had a higher selective admissions standard which due to the economy this year will most likely significantly increase thus adding more status to a Binghamton acceptance then ever before. This will bode well for increasing Binghamton’s standings/rankings in the future. The average Binghamton student academic statistics exceeds that of the average Penn State student (I believe that is what most publications keeping tabs on this have shown) again there is an advantage for a school of 11,000 to be more selective that of a school of 40,000 (undergrads).
So if money is not the issue Penn State would general be my choice (again it would depend on major or program of interest). Yet back to the real world for which a majority of people money is an issue. If you happen to be a NY resident who had the choice between Binghamton (in state) for about ½ the cost of Penn State (out of state) to me the Penn State advantages do not out weigh the cost and selecting Binghamton would be wise way to go.</p>

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<p>Lol jec7483, </p>

<p>I am confident that I have more than enough friends regardless of what time or what day I decide to respond to your idiotic postings.</p>

<p>Nothing you have posted has aroused any questions in my mind regarding Binghamton's superiority. Penn State is an expensive school that is not worth it's price tag, and Binghamton is half the price and is stronger academically, and if it weren't for football Bing would have a higher reputation already instead of in a couple of years.</p>

<p>Go back to the Penn State forums if you love it so much!</p>

<p>Maybe you're the one who has doubts since you are scouring the Binghamton forums!!! haha</p>

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<p>I remember that my high school math teacher had mentioned that she had gone to SUNY Binghamton. Before that happened, I had actually never knew that the school existed; sorry just throwing that out there. While it is a strong school, to say that it is superior to Penn State is ridiculous.</p>

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<p>If you want to hate on Binghamton, please simply do it on a different forum than the Binghamton one. You've obviously heard of it and think something of it if you are searching through its thread....</p>

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<p>My friend, I wasn't searching through your thread, I was simply looking for topics regarding Penn State. When there is a forum such as this, with posts such as yours that spew information which most people will tell you is false, then I feel I should respond. I am not hating on Binghamton, I am just stating that Penn State is generally regarded as a better school.</p>

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<p>Binghamton > Penn State.</p>

<p>Enough said.</p>

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<p>Sorry I started a fight. I love Penn State but Binghamton is over $80,000 cheaper for 4 years. (NYS resident). Plus my kid isnt big on football.</p>

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<p>"Binghamton > Penn State.</p>

<p>Enough said."</p>

<p>Wow, fantastic argument... I sure hope you weren't on the debate team. You insult Penn State with NO reasoning or facts behind it, perhaps because you have some weird insecurity about Binghamton (no need to, because it is a good university).</p>

<p>sunset66, your son or daughter will have a great education at which ever school he/she chooses.</p>

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<p>It is a shame that it has to come down to the almighty dollar. You have to be either rich or poor. The middle class gets hammered...no grant money and pay the same as a millionaire.</p>

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<p>bostonfan23, if you really want to have a discussion about the two schools with bdmet2491, then just wait and log into college confidential on friday night. Bdmet2491 will definitely be on here.</p>

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<p>Ha Ha. No jec7483, no CC for me Fri night, going out with some friends.</p>

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<p>Bostonfan, you are obviously so bright that you couldn't detect the sarcasm in my statement. I was refusing to dignify the argument with any more facts or further waste of my time. Amazing you've found some friends though LOL</p>

<p>Jec, get a life and stop f****ing around on CC. I sincerely doubt I'm on any more than you are. I'm not some idiot on the internet looking through forums just to battle it out with strangers. Go rethink your career decision or find yourself a girl, mate. There are better ways to relieve stress out there</p>

<p>You and boston fan should get together and have an internet party, watch some webcams or whatever you crazy kids do for fun.</p>

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<p>Statistically, for my high school for the past three years:
Pennsylvania State University, University Park:
Average GPA: 3.76 out of 4.5
Average SAT (2400): 1799
Average SAT (1600): 1206
Admitted: 102/118</p>

<p>Binghamton University:
Average GPA: 4.03/4.5
Average SAT (2400): 1945
Average SAT (1600): 1310
Admitted: 158/265</p>

<p>This is just for one LI high school (and my being in NY definitely would cloud this), but, anecdotally, a lot of the people I know that go to Penn State are outright dumb. Not all of them, but quite a few. (Again, anecdotally--I do NOT mean to start a flame war with this, I know there are plenty of very intelligent people that attend Penn State in the honors program and elsewhere). The kids that end up at Bing are generally a mix--for some it was a reach and they ecstatically attend, for others it was a backup for Ivies. But (again, anecdotally) we never send any "top kids" to Penn State, whereas usually 2 or 3 end up at Bing. Again, we are in NY, and money may definitely be a factor. But this is just my two cents.</p>

<p>Also, as far as my grade is concerned, I know of at least 15 people who got into Penn State already. I don't think any of them broke 2000 on the SAT, GPAs probably range from 3 to 4. Meanwhile, I know a few people who got into the University of Michigan (and applied early enough to benefit but not THAT early, maybe late October or so?) who got deferred from Binghamton. So this is anecdotal academic evidence from one high school, but I've been conditioned to look at Binghamton more favorably.</p>

<p>HOWEVER, if you're into the whole frat/sorority scene at a big school with a big football team, obviously go with Penn State. It's all about preference. Many of the people that I know at Penn State are incredibly happy there, and I'm sure it provides a great education. I, again, stress that I'm speaking simply about the population from one particular high school that attends each school.</p>

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<p>i agree with you^ 100%.</p>

<p>From my school (One of nyc's specialized high schools) a 70 average is enough to get admitted into penn state while 90 is not enough for Bing</p>

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<p>Bananafish9, I hate to call you a liar, but the numbers for your school are nowhere near normal if that's true. The average acceptance rate for University Park is %51, while your high school has over an %86 acceptance rate.</p>

<p>Pennsylvania</a> State University--University Park - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report</p>

<p>Anyway, your high school is well off with the average for Binghamton as well.</p>

<p>Binghamton's Incoming Class Averages
GPA- 3.7
SAT(out of 1600)-1267</p>

<p><a href="https://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl.jhtml?previousPageSection=app_accept&schoolId=83%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl.jhtml?previousPageSection=app_accept&schoolId=83&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Penn State University Park's Incoming Class Averages
GPA-3.6
SAT(out of 1600)- 1190</p>

<p>Penn</a> State University Park Overview - CollegeData College Profile</p>

<p>Actually, if you look at the admission tracker(on the right of the collegedata pages) averages from all the people entering their numbers in a different area for the 2013 incoming class on that website, also a small sample like your school, the averages are even closer.</p>

<p>Binghamton
GPA-3.61
SAT-1263</p>

<p>Penn State University Park
GPA-3.58
SAT-1243</p>

<p>You and getsis22 either have very unique schools or you are confused with the numbers of the people being admitted from your schools. The admissions are almost the same, so please do not come out here saying there are droves of "outright dumb" people going to Penn State UP from your school. Plus, if you read my previous posts, I argued that Penn State University Park offers better academics, not that it is harder to get into. Admission difficulty and academics are not always one and the same. Not lighting the fire with you, just pointing out the difference between your high school and the rest of the applicant pool. Also, just a side question, what is with you and the word anecdotal? </p>

<p>Getsis22,
A 70 average will not get you into University Park, regardless of your school being specialized. I believe you may be confused with people going to branch campuses, but even those would be a stretch with that gpa average.</p>

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<p>There are dumb kids in very public college. There are even dumb kids in fancy privates - ever hear of George W Bush?
This thread has really gone down the tubes...poor soul asks for a comparison..and gets flames and inaccurate info (70 avg LOL).
I must say the Bing students seem pretty defensive here. I understand. I went to a big SUNY and get no respect. But the more you protest, the more insecure you sound. Bing is good and getting better. PSU has always been pretty good - and has more of a brand name due to the football team. Where to go is a matter of preference...and DOLLARS. If money is an issue, go to the cheaper one.</p>

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<p>If you're talking Penn State University Park (not a branch campus) I find it highly doubtful that you could get accepted with an average of 70...doubtfully even at a branch campus and only if you had high test scores or a damn good explanation. If you did get in you would probably not survive..and many of the transfers from branch campuses have difficultly adapting.</p>

<p>I am a PSU graduate (BA 1982, MS 2000 from Penn State Great Valley.) My father was a Penn State professor (deceased in 1980) and he had two Ivy League degrees in Math -- Columbia and UPenn (PhD). He taught at a local graduate campus. My husband is a PSU engineer and my daughter is an IST (Information Science and Technology) major at Penn State. You might say WE ARE PENN STATE!!</p>

<p>bananafish9 -- I question your intelligence if you think it's acceptable to post a note suggesting that Penn State students are "dumb" and to not anticipate a "flame war." How insulting. </p>

<p>Now to describe Penn State......yes, to me it is still Happy Valley! While I am not a sports fan...and never was...I still bleed "blue and white" as do most Penn State Alums. I am quite middle aged and most of my dearest, closest friends are my Penn State friends.</p>

<p>Regarding the Greek sorority/fraternity system. Sure it's there but they most certainly don't run the show as I understand happens at many smaller schools. Penn State is a world renowned research university. If your leanings are in science or engineering consider yourself lucky to be accepted at Penn State. Then get ready for huge freshman calculus/science classes that will weed out many, many students who switch from engineering to another school. It's tough...it needs to be as they have an excellent reputation in engineering. (I am not an engineer!) </p>

<p>As for my older daughter....it's an incredible school. This is her third year and she has already been involved in 2 National Science Foundation research projects...one paid and one not. She has had a 6 month corporate internship at a great corporation! Prospective</a> Undergraduate Students</p>

<p>Careers</a> in IST</p>

<p>My younger daughter is now a senior in high school and decided not to apply to Penn State.....which I respect as she wants to be her own person! She has, however, applied to and has been accepted to Binghamton (and many other schools). We intend to visit as I know that Binghamton has an incredible reputation and it might be a good fit for her. </p>

<p>My advice to my daughter is to visit all of the schools that she's been accepted to....and when I say visit I mean visit the college not just the University. The College of IST at Penn State is amazing and is quite small. My daughter knows most of her Professors and as she placed out of many freshman classes with AP credits she didn't need to suffer through any "weed out" courses.</p>

<p>So, no matter what school it is visit before making any decisions. Don't listen to general stereotypes that the school is party/Greek/sports, etc., etc. Penn State is big enough for anyone! If you plan to be a science or engineering student then by choosing Penn State you've chosen a world class research university with lots of opportunities.</p>

<p>So now - all of that said I have no idea what school my daughter will be attending this fall!!! </p>

<p>...and bananafish9....for characterizing a single Penn State student as dumb??? Shame on you! (Best of luck though!)</p>

<p>One more plug for Penn State - it is the home of the largest student-run philanthropy in the world! Consider making a contribution that will change a child's life.</p>

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<p>Yes, it is true that i do not know the exact school or branch or w.e where they were admitted. However, saying "LOL, you don't know anything" isn't going to change the fact that two kids with a 70-75 average (no higher) and an SAT in the 1200/1600 got into Penn State from my school (I live in NY, so OOS stats should be taken into account). At the same time, many kids with 90+ average from my school got deferred from Bing. Does that mean that Penn State sucks? No, not at all. I was just staing the facts. I do not go to Bing or Penn State, so I don't think that I am biased.
Just because you, toneranger, don't agree with the facts, doesn't seem they are wrong.</p>