Hard to decide where to do ED, Upenn or John Hopkins for Bioinformatics/ Biomedical engineering. Where my DD have better chance to get in? Do not want to miss this opportunity?
Weighted GPA:- 4.99 Unweighted GPA: 3.9 ACT: 35 some clubs, leadership position, volunteer with bronze presidential award and working in town since Jan.2022 teaching kids phyton and blender courses.
Flip a coin. Both are highly competitive and offer a fantastic education.
And then encourage your daughter to research other programs which are less competitive âjust in caseâ her ED application isnât successful. Her time is better spent falling in love with a few more schools than trying to read the tea leaves on Penn vs HopkinsâŠ
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Iâm going to double down on @blossomâs post: you have dropped hints in your other posts that your daughter, although a very strong student, is not in the top tier of students in her class. I wonder if you are keen on JHU and UPenn b/c you can see that HYPSM wonât happen, and these are the ânext bestâ names. The thing is they still reject 90+% of their applicants.
Think about how you will cope- and what message your daughter will get from you- if she is in that 90%.
Think about what other schools would be âgood enoughâ but have higher acceptance rates that you can get behind.
This last admissions cycle was all over the map, and a lot of super-strong students found themselves going way down their lists. Nobody knows if next year will be the same, so work hard to find schools that both of you can be happy with.
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Both schools fill over 50% of their class in binding ED and both are very competitive. The ED acceptance rate for Penn was 16% vs 21% for JHU. Iâm not sure if JHU includes both ED I and II in their stats but I would suspect thatâs the case.
You can easily search ED acceptance rates for most colleges as most have released their stats for this past cycle. For previous years, you can look up a schoolâs common data st.
Both schools are reaches for every single applicant and every student needs to have a realistic list of match and safety schools.
ED should be used for a school that the student absolutely loves the most and is affordable.
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Thereâre lots of UPenn legacies among ED applicants. On the other hand, JHU doesnât give legacies preferential treatment.
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Penn told us straight out at an info session on campus âIf you are a legacy and Penn is your first choice, apply ED. Otherwise, legacy will not be consideredâ. I donât know if the policy has changed but they were pretty candid about it.
For sure that skews Pennâs ED stats. I would not be reading the tea leaves on this one. Bottom line- Penn and JHU- hard to get accepted. Take your shot for sure, but spend the summer falling in love somewhere else.
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Yes, I believe thatâs still UPennâs policy.
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Gotta admire them for putting it out there. I think it cuts down on the gamesmanship-- none of this âwill I hate myself for not applying to Yale early if I think I have a shot there, but daddy went to Penn so maybe thatâs my best bet, but mommy went to Barnard, does that mean Iâm a Columbia legacy? What should I do???â
Penn is really clear about your status!!!
Who cares which is easier to get into.
Which school does she prefer, is the better fit?
That should be the deciding factor on a binding app.
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Pennâs web site no longer explicitly hints that legacy may be considered more strongly in ED versus RD, unlike in past years when it did. Does not mean that there is not a difference in legacy consideration in ED versus RD, but they seem to have stopped putting it in writing.
https://admissions.upenn.edu/admissions-and-financial-aid/apply-for-admission/first-year-admission
Yes, they began erasing their tracks on this issue a few years ago. The admissions office used to hold sessions for legacy kids in small groups of 10 or 15. Thatâs gone, too.
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