<p>Did anybody get in? I hear Harvard admitted a whopping 3% in RD.</p>
<p>3.75, Tex. Come ON! .75 makes all the difference.</p>
<p>When I read Gibby’s thread I laughed out loud at the math. It’s officially jumped the shark.</p>
<p>I liked in the Harvard article, though, that he talked about having @ or around 14,000 who had above 700 in each SAT category. It told us that 1. 700 seems to be the number they consider to be a cut off. 2. That only 14,000 were even actually qualified to apply. </p>
<p>So, perhaps they had 14,000 applicants, or even fewer, since they broke it down by section, and you “probably” need above 700 in all three. Maybe there is a more “real” kind of math to be done.</p>
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<p>UNC CHAPEL Hill has some sort of charter. They MUST take in something like 86% North Carolinians in each fresh class. That means that the rest goes to OOS students to fight over. Not sure how many OOS students have to fight over 14%. DD has her heart set on UNC CH., but she knows that it’s going to be a tough go!! As it is for the majority of schools these days. Some highly qualified students are getting rejected from their safeties. </p>
<p>With everyone wanting “in” to post secondary education, it’s definitely a sellers market. Unfortunately, the sellers of education are calling all of the shots it seems. </p>
<p>I am so glad dd is laid back & does not come to CC. I think CC adds to the anxiety of it all. </p>
<p>@Kewlona. I am sure that Xiggi knew exactly what he was talking about!!</p>
<p>The college acceptance threads today have been making me sad. With no child in the race any more, I am better able to see the broad picture – a picture of a battlefield riddled with the corpses of innocent youth having fought a nearly-unwinnable war, and all too often having been fought in the hope of making their elders proud.</p>
<p>That’s why I am encouraging DD to cast a VERYYYY wide net as there are no guarantees. No expectations of being accepted. One must present themselves the best way that they can. Click send and move on until the acceptances roll in. Or not.</p>
<p>Quote:"…a picture of a battlefield riddled with the corpses of innocent youth having fought a nearly-unwinnable war, and all too often having been fought in the hope of making their elders proud."</p>
<p>Corpses? Really?</p>
<p>I believe that with a little perspective, those students who were rejected from all the status laden bumper sticker worthy colleges have still won life’s lottery. Parents and schools, we need to opt out of this ridiculous culture. It’s not good for our children.</p>
<p>The best course of action is to set realistic expectations early in the process. I am not speaking about where to apply- students should certainly shoot for the moon, but students should also understand the statistics around acceptances to the lottery schools. It is a gift if you get accepted, not a given. </p>
<p>I have been watching my D’s friends disappointment over this whole application season. It is heartbreaking and it does not need to be. Unrealistic expectations on acceptances and even worse money are what lead to the heartbreak. </p>
<p>A college Yes, No, or Wait (the nicest possible no), does not define who you are. </p>
<p>I know some great kids who by all measures should have been accepted to the most competitive of schools, but are waitlisted or rejected. I think the blow would be easier if these top students didn’t define match schools as HYPPC. </p>
<p>D did get her waitlist from Cornell yesterday- we were prepared for a no. So the wait was not a surprise to us.</p>
<p>I’m glad xiggi titled the post with “she” because I do think girls take the rejections harder. </p>
<p>A few years back, a good friend’s daughter (who all considered to be a very qualified applicant for her selective schools) was rejected by several of her top choices. After the rejections came, mom gave her girl a night (or two) of crying, giving her hugs and support. Listened to, “I have sacrificed so much of my time, given up so much to study” and “My life is forever changed…what I am going to do”…etc. </p>
<p>That weekend, mom purposely took daughter over to our nearby Veteran’s Hospital for a morning of volunteering and followed it that afternoon with work serving meals to the homeless. She felt that they both needed to see the world through a lens that wasn’t so focused on college acceptances and denials. Daughter saw what a different kind of sacrifice was all about and how truly fortunate she was to have the options available to her.</p>
<p>^ I agree that parents should allow their kids a period for being sad/disappointed/angry/whatever. Parents are feeling these emotions themselves, and emotions never disappear just because someone thinks they should. Your friend is a wise mom, KandKsmom.
Great point about how many applicants were truly academically qualified, poetgrl. 3.75 percent. Holy wow. I thought the baby boomlet was diminishing? Is everyone throwing their hats into the Ivy League ring these days? The finaid is outstanding, of course (the education, too :)). But it surprises me that so many people would challenge single-digit acceptance rates.</p>
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I’m actually quite glad D didn’t get Waitlisted at UNC. That just prolongs the pain. Better to cut off the dead flesh and carry on, as they say.</p>
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<p>Oh, I also know that he knew exactly what he was talking about, I however wanted to point out that it did not have to be 
and in my mind it is not !
We are making ouerselves miserable by thinking this way…</p>
<p>poetgirl - I knew 3.75% sounded wrong and indeed it was.</p>
<p>I went searching for the thread this morning and someone fixed all the erroneous assumptions and got it down to 3.387%! :D</p>
<p>Then, if you like, take out all the developmental admits, six-generation legacies, and football and basketball players, and see where it’s at.</p>
<p>700 + 700 + 700 = $2.1 million. That’s probably the minimum going price.</p>
<p>Well, here in America we are obsessed with american universities.
Have a look at the Ecole Polytechnique Federal Lausanne (EPFL).
It ranks among the top 30 science/engineering schools in the world. Tuition for internationals is $2600 , all together with room/board books it comes to around $22,500.
While its language of instruction is French, classes are actually taught in English, French and German, many (if not most )of the books are in English ! And it is in Switzerland, one of the best countries to live in !
Maybe instead of obsessing ouerselves with HYP we should look where the real value in eduction is today? And maybe we should encourage our kids to study languages instead of obsessing about yet another AP test?</p>
<p>Kelowa – is that price only for EU residents? Or for all?</p>
<p>All internationals :)</p>
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<p>My son attends Brown for less than $5000 a year, all in, including tuition, room and board and fees, books, travel back and forth to school and misc. expenses. His alternative choices – Williams, Amherst and Northwestern – came back with similar offers. </p>
<p>Not everyone pursues these elite schools for the prestige – if your household income is below $100,000 ($60,000 for some schools) these elite schools can be the deal of the century. If a popular gourmet restaurant were to offer dinner for 90% off, the lines would be around the block, too!</p>
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<p>Absolutely, but it is a little different if one is a full pay ;)</p>
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<p>I agree. There is often substantial merit aid available at state schools for candidates with elite-school credentials – my son was offered $71,000 over 4 years at our state flagship.</p>
<p>In any case, it’s clear that students need to look further and further beyond the New England region for college. The Midwest – traditional fly-over country – has been discovered over the past 5 years. It stands to reason that international options are the next frontier now that Northwestern and UChicago are settling in with acceptance rates below 14%.</p>
<p>I believe Chicago forum is taking pride in having less than 9% admit rate!</p>