<p>Wow!
Some of the deferred students on these forums were completely out-of-line...once the decision came out, they just let it all out. I must have seen at least 5-10 "i didnt get in b/c i'm white" posts and on the dartmouth and cornell boards, there were dozens of students accepted with <1900 SAT scores, while many with >2350 got rejected on the spot despite having good EC's and amazing GPA's....</p>
<p>It's terrifying to see 1) some of these students not make it in with amazing stats and
2) students openly comment about the validity of the school's choice by demeaning other applicants. </p>
<p>I hope none of us here sink that low (and this is coming from a white male without any legacy/alumni recs/etc)</p>
<p>they're under a lot of stress, so i can see why they'd try to rationalize, although i don't necessarily agree with their views...i'm pretty freaked out by the arbitrary nature of some of these decisions too =/ but seriously, if you've done all you can do, then there's nothing to worry about. i've convinced myself it's all a crapshoot anyway =P</p>
<p>Yeah, the Cornell forums get quite disgusting sometimes.</p>
<p>17 year old boys and 46 year old guys (and gals, can't leave out the fairer sex. ;)) talking about how the only reason somebody got rejected was because he or she was white or some other bs like that.</p>
<p>It's that kind of suppressed racism that makes me lose hope in America.</p>
<p>disasterous, that is so true. When will people finally realize that SAT scores don't mean a thing when it comes to admission? To think that some people would tell you otherwise.</p>
<p>It's just a coachable, one day test that doesn't measure anything.</p>
<p>I have convinced myself that if I get rejected (or deferred, can't leave out that huge probability) it is merely because either a) I just was not good enough or b) they decided I would not fit in. It is as simple as that, what is done is done.</p>
<p>Oh god...like everybody who applied to an ivy from my school got rejected/deferred today, including someone with a similar resume as mine getting deferred at Brown...I'm not feeling so hot right now.</p>
<p>ED is a LOT more stressful, especially when you think you might get in. Give them a break. Although I glanced through the dartmouth thread, and it was sort of .. sad? disheartened? i dont want to say disgusting, but if you read through the comments towards the end you'll see what I mean :/</p>
<p>Quote: "It's that kind of suppressed racism that makes me lose hope in America."</p>
<p>I don't think the people on the forum are necessarily racist, but just frustrated and venting the wrong way. And I don't think that they are blaming the entire rejection/deferral on AA, either, except for a very minor few. Like it or not, being a URM is generally considered as a hook, and this added advantage is going to weigh somewhat, even if minor. I think the people on those forum are just really disappointed about their results (even though it probably was due to many combination of factors, not just ONE) and need an excuse to release their anger on. Of course, this does NOT give permission for them to demean others who got in. What they did is not commendable at all, and frankly speaks to their maturity level more than anything, but I don't think it was due to racism per se. </p>
<p>On that note, I personally don't agree with AA, but I would never use it as a crutch to feel better about myself if I didn't get in. That's just wrong, and demeaning to yourself as well as others. I hope no one on the Yale board does this, either. </p>
<p>And as for SAT scores -- to be honest, I AM scared. From what I've seen so far, high SAT scores actually seem to correlated more to deferred/rejected applicants than accepted ones! (is this even possible?)
I agree, the SAT is almost meaningless (it doesn't show almost anything about who we actually are), but still -- I could have easily gotten a 2150 not putting any effort into prepping for it, but I worked my butt off to get in the "competitive" range for Yale. I hope it counts for something, or at least, doesn't count against me. :(</p>
<p>I didn't mean to start an AA debate...I meant to prevent one ><em>> <</em>< >_>
whoopsie? </p>
<p>To counter the awkwardness of this situation, I will be yelling out random, incoherent framents: Ostrich eggs! Truffula trees! Brown Bar-ba-loots in their Bar-ba-loot suits! All your base are belong to us!</p>
<p>Ack, I hope our forum doesn't degenerate to the point where we become hostile... but we're all good people here so I don't think that will happen.</p>
<p>Oh... and I forgot to mention....</p>
<p>Hoola-Hoops! Shnuggle bear! Once a poptart always a bagel! o.o</p>
<p>I mean, I come on here everyday, see people's user names and feel like I know them even though I know very little to absolutely nothing about them. I think we're all civil and, come Monday, we will not be as hostile as the other boards seem to be.</p>
<p>Bottom point is, if you don't get in, you didn't get in, not because someone took your spot but because the school didn't take you. Therefore, there's no point in attacking people.</p>
<p>All your base are belong to us? Internet fad time, eh? AWESOME!
I think that Yale is a pretty cool guy. Eh rejects everyone and doesn't afraid of anything.</p>
<p>We all need to remember that once you fall into the competitive pool of applicants, it's hard to say who will and who won't get in. They might take someone who has the same resume as you, but reject/defer you.
So remember. If you don't get in, it does not mean that you didn't work hard enough! It just means that there is something else out there for you :)</p>