Brown PLME vs. UPENN LSM vs. Yale-PLEASE HELP!!!!

<p>Hey everyone,</p>

<p>I was very lucky to be admitted to all these of schools and the respective programs at the former two. I am now having trouble deciding which school to go to. I like the guarantee of med school that PLME offers but I want to go into healthcare management and UPENN's LSM programs gives me both my premed requirements and a degree from Wharton. And, well, Yale has been my dream school for a long time. I just feel that if I go to one of the programs that perhaps I will get more attention than I would be as a typical undergrad at Yale. Also, the programs offer things which Yale doesn't. Anyway, anyone care to chime in?</p>

<p>Thanks again!</p>

<p>PLME only makes sense if you're certain you want to go to med school. Since you want to get into healthcare management, Penn makes the most sense: you can go either way from here, since you've done all the pre-med requirements as well. Yale will not give you the specific advantages of these two programs, but is a great school.
In terms of your goals, Penn seems best suited. You'll also make useful contacts with future as well as current industry leaders in healthcare management and biotech at the LSM program. Penn also has the strongest biotech program of the three (and one of the best in the country), which you may want to branch out into. If you like the feel of the school go there. If you feel Yale or Brown fit you better, go there instead, all three schools are equally good.</p>

<p>If you want to go to med school Brown PLME. You dpn't "have" to go to the med school. </p>

<p>If you are not certain go for Yale, then you can choose to go to med school or graduate school after.</p>

<p>"Yale has been my dream school for a long time."</p>

<p>Well Dorothy your dream has come true and the Wizard is sending you home.</p>

<p>It is a privilege to have a dream come true. HBP? HPP? no its HYP.</p>

<p>Yale.</p>

<p>i agree that brown is the best place if you know you want to be a doctor AND go into a healthcare management position. otherwise, it sounds yale is the best fit for you.</p>

<p>How Brown can be better for healthcare management than a real management education (from wharton no less) is beyond my comprehension. That being said, Yale is Yale, which I presume means it has magical powers</p>

<p>in high-level healthcare administration and healthcare consulting, MD's have an enormous edge over those with business degrees. hence, if you're sure about being a doctor, PLME is the obvious choice</p>

<p>i agree with snooker1, penn sounds like it suits your needs best</p>

<p>but i've got to say....i hate u, though i am still stoked about being a Commodore in the fall =]</p>

<p>hey everybody,</p>

<p>thanks for all your replies! if you guys could keep giving your input that would be great! dcircle, if you could further your comment on brown being the best place for becoming a doctor and go into a health care management position.</p>

<p>thanks again and congrats to you mrchipmunk90 on becoming a commodore!</p>

<p>to clarify, all are great places for becoming a doctor and going into health care management.</p>

<p>management is a field where you don't need a management degree--in fact, mckinsey, bcg, and other top management consulting firms prefer hiring those with other degrees (MD, JD, PhD) over MBA's by a long shot. to be a senior healthcare administrator at a medical center, health plan, or pharm company--an MD is almost a prerequesite.</p>

<p>that being said, there are many potential routes to a job in healthcare management, and much may hinge on what exactly you want to do.</p>

<p>if in fact, you are sure you want an MD, Brown appears to be the best option because you can pursue your interests in business as an undergrad while keeping your admission to med school secure. several of the PLME students concentrate in COE, which may be a good option for you as well
Commerce</a>, Organizations, and Entrepreneurship</p>

<p>i know this is going to sound trite and immature, but would penn's wharton degree as compared to brown's C.V. Starr Program in Commerce, Organizations, and Entrepreneurship (COE) concentration giving me a significantly greater advantage in terms of job opportunities?</p>

<p>You don't turn down Yale for these schools. Students change their major more often than not once you get to college.</p>

<p>"
The majority of college students change their major at least once during college and many change their majors several times. Even if a student chooses one major and stays with that course of study for the duration of their college career, according to the U.S. Department of Labor the average college graduate changes jobs once every three years and changes career fields two or three times in their lifetime."</p>

<p>College</a> Students Change Career Paths As Often As They Change... - Campus</p>

<p>no, not if you are planning to go to medical school. that is the whole point.</p>

<p>if you are not planning to go to medical school, going to wharton may very well open up doors that may not otherwise be present--though i think yale wins out on this dimension</p>

<p>so yale is better than the upenn program in the dimension of going into healthcare management? how come? at yale i would be another undergrad. at penn im at wharton and im getting my premed recs done in a special program? is it the prestige of yale which makes it the winner? </p>

<p>thanks again for all your input and more input is greatly appreciated!</p>

<p>yale is just a stronger school by almost every measure--resources, selectivity, etc.</p>

<p>the truth is, undergraduate management degrees don't carry a lot of weight and a degree from wharton isn't going to be distinguished from a yale degree at the entry level. you can major in art history and be hired by mckinsey--in fact, they prefer to hire entry-level analysts that are "interesting", not typical business types.</p>

<p>if you were interested in finance, wharton might carry more of an edge.</p>

<p>particularly because you are interested in health care management, if you have any inclinations towards practicing medicine, i would suggest the PLME because this is a difficult niche to break into (particularly at the senior level) without serious health care credentials.</p>

<p>bump anyone else? thanks for all your responses</p>

<p>bumpidy bump bump</p>

<p>dcircle, mckinsey hires the MDs, PhDs etc for specific specialist roles. They hire MBAs as generalists and clearly like doing so, judging by the droves they hire every year</p>

<p>Go to Yale... just do it!</p>

<p>ishbaca can you respond to my PM, please?</p>