<p>Those interested in this highly competitive program might want to check out this article in today's Daily Herald:</p>
<p>Dual</a> degree students arrive on College Hill - Campus News</p>
<p>Just 13 students were chosen for the inaugural class.</p>
<p>it's an absolutely amazing program</p>
<p>Thanks for the link, worried_mom. 13 students out of how many, do you know?</p>
<p>Also, have you run across any stats on these wunderkinds?</p>
<p>D is thinking about applying, but has a lot of portfolio work to do. I don't think this year's RISD app is even on their website yet, and it's not clear if the instructions for the three drawing samples are from last year or this year...</p>
<p>According to the Brown Daily Herald, 4/10/08 </p>
<p>"The program, which will allow them to study at both institutions and graduate in five years with a degree from each school, received about 400 applications in its inaugural year, said Lucy King, RISD's assistant director of admission. Of those, 30 to 50 applicants were admitted to both Brown and RISD, and from that pool, both schools chose the 18 who were admitted to the program, both admissions offices confirmed. </p>
<p>Ten students are expected to matriculate, admission officers from each school said."</p>
<p>Thanks, gwsmom. Wow, so that's an acceptance rate of only 4.5%. </p>
<p>I'm just going to hope that they open up more spots for next year's class...</p>
<p>My daughter is in the inaugural class. She is one of the 13 who enrolled and is loving it. If anyone has questions, feel free to contact me.</p>
<p>Georgia4444: what portfolio work did your daughter do to get into the program? do you think extracurriculars and volunteering is an important aspect of the application or are grades and SATs as important?</p>
<p>Tehe I wanted to apply to this program but I dual enrolled in high school and was ineligible. I actually cried. Sort of just makes me mad that early college is offered as such a great thing to high school kids when it has the potential to ruin some kids' dreams. I dual enrolled for two years, finished all but 3 classes of my AA before graduating high school at 17 years old and was told I couldn't apply hahahhaha. I applied to both and was accepted to both hoping I could just cross register on my own without being in the 'oh, prestigious dual degree program' but they won't allow it.</p>
<p>Very unfair to bright, eager students looking to better their futures through early college. But it's okay. Once I finish my BFA, premed reqs, med school and PhD and become one of the worlds leading researchers in neuroscience (especially in the context of left/right brain relations, creativity and, most importantly, synesthaesia) a la Dr. Ramachandran... I'm sure I will forget about how bitter I was about being ineligible to apply to the Brown/RISD dual degree program. ^__^</p>
<p>whoa. a bit of venting going on there?
sorry.</p>
<p>Are you at RISD or Brown?
You are saying that they (who?) said you are overqualified?
Do you have to start as freshman or what?
I ask because we have similar HS programs here award AA degree with HS diploma that we almost considered but farther digging proved that it won't transfer to every colleges but to some in yet some parts of credits, so doesn't really worth the sweat.
If Brown thought your almost AA is too good to be ineligible as incoming dual, you should feel good about it.
It still does not make sense though, at least you have given one spot to less qualified less smart less eager kid, be happy and become great doctor after RISD??
And now we know taking college courses galore sometimes hurt kids' chances unless going to affiliated public colleges!?</p>
<p>artsymed is not attending either Brown or RISD. From other posts, I learned he is currently attending Dayton State College in Florida and seeking to transfer to another school for Spring 2009. The RISD/Brown dual degree program is not currently open to any transfer students, only incoming freshmen, so his ineligibility has nothing to do with his dual enrollment status.</p>
<p>On a more general note regarding dual enrollment programs: Most elite colleges and universities (including Brown, Tufts, BC, NU) do not accept any dual enrollment credits. If you took the classes while still in high school, at your high school with other high school students, and they counted towards your high school graduation requirements, the elite schools consider them as simply high school classes and do not give any college credit for them. Dual enrollment classes are accepted at almost all public universities, however, so they can be a very good deal for highly motivated students trying to cut the costs of attending college.</p>
<p>OK so if he applied as incoming freshman he would have qualified no matter what he have done during HS?
I mean, what he meant by "got in both" then, when, now? or then? or what?
I am more confused. If this person himself could explain the situation, please.
There are people done dual degree sort while enrolled in either Brown or RISD before it was officially offered, I have read article in somewhere.
I don't see why then he can't do that?</p>
<p>b&d, you're right that a few students did earn degrees from both Brown and RISD without being formally enrolled in a dual degree program. You may be remembering this article from the Brown "Daily Herald":</p>
<p>Dual</a> degree nothing new for many students - Campus News</p>
<p>Before the official dual degree program was launched this year, students enrolled in one school and then took advantage of the cross-registration available to take classes at the other school (max of one class per semester). But eventually they would have to formally transfer to, and enroll at, the other school if they wanted to get the second degree. Theoretically, it's still possible to do so, but it's really tough due to the scheduling problems and limitations on class sizes in RISD's studios.</p>
<p>hey.. err on *she tehe ;p</p>
<p>and yes, I'm currently still going to daytona state, where I dual enrolled in high school. I never said I was 'over qualified'.... just too 'old' (within the realm of scholarly pursuits anyway... I don't know anyone who considers 17 old 'cept colleges tehe ;p) When I talked to admissions counselors from both schools they both told me that I took too many dual enrollment classes (two full years worth including summers... a little over 60 credits) to be qualified for the dual degree program. I applied and got into both schools anyway hoping once they understood I was serious I could do a dual degree program 'on my own' as worried_mom pointed out (ps I think it's great you're concerned about your childs(children?) education and want to help and be involved..) All in all I ended up staying here for an extra year and a half to work/take care of my dad/brother but it's okay, I couldn't afford the housing at risd or brown anyway, I just applied to cornell and a couple other schools after reading about their housing/other costs being included when considering financial aid for eligible students. I just wish I found out about this site/stuff other than college board when I was in high school... I was just being naive and dumb I guess. </p>
<p>but one day. hopefully this coming semester I'll actually get to leave ^__^ good luck to you guys though, I really hope you get whatever it is you're looking for.</p>
<p>It seems your issue is more to $ and parental support?
You needed pushy parents like us.
I did think you sound girly, maybe Asian and new to this country.
Look, knowledge is the power, dig this site as much as you can before make changes.
I don't see why you can't save money and get MFA instead of tranfering as senior, you are a senior aren't you?</p>
<p>Tehe yeah, my dad doesn't believe in higher education but I am relishing in the new 100% of student aid met without loans thing in the ivies and have already been accepted to Penn which is my new first choice... but because I'm a transfer I don't know if the aid policy ^ still applies (it would be great though because my EFC is 17 and profile keeps it about the same ha) thus I am waiting to hear from everyone and get a glance at what the aid will be like. However I've been considering private loans (for Penn!) if they're all about the same. And yes, I am asian but not very new to the country tehe. </p>
<p>And no, I'm a sophmore; I basically finished my AA in high school but after not leaving decided to stay and finish honors requirements/take some extra classes in almost all fields just to see if I'd like them.... essentially wasted time >.< heh but all in all I'm basically still a sophmore transferring to finish a BFA/premed stuff then MCAT then you know, about a decade later.... goal accomplished. haha thanks for the advice though, bears and dogs (:</p>
<p>cute name too heh ^__^</p>
<p>If you haven't yet, read " Strapped " by Tamara Draut.
There is other book by Yale Univ. press I can't remember the title. I will post when I know.
By all means,don't take loans without parental backing up.</p>