Understood. My point is when I bring them up people say nooooooo….gotta go abet. So surprised not unanimous here. Of course they’ve had success or would change. But they’re also an elite or near elite name.
While I’m sure they’ll get ABET here and it’s retro it’s the after 2nd and 3rd year internships I worry about when accreditation hasn’t happened.
My son is also applying to UC Riverside as a Robotics major. This is a new program starting fall 2022, so it is not ABET accredited either. But I feel reassured by the fact that UC Riverside clearly states on their website that they plan to apply as soon as it is eligible. I also saw on their website that the next ABET accreditation is planned for 2025… so I assume that’s when it will happen. My hunch is that he will have a better chance of being admitted to Robotics at UC Riverside than ME at Cal Poly Pomona??
At least UCR has a track record, companies coming to recruit and ABET certification.
I think if you want ME you apply ME, not back door. But yes, to me, this is a better option than Humboldt.
Others and you may disagree.
Robotics is a bit of a different beast. Even CMU isn’t ABET accredited. There are only three, WPI, UMich-Dearborn and Lawrence. It’ll be nice if they get it, but certainly not critical given the affiliation with an already well known department of engineering.
There is no admission data for UCR’s Robotic major 2022, so hard to tell if UCR would be an easier admit than CPP ME.
For 2021 admits, CPP had an MFA threshold of 4384.
https://www.cpp.edu/admissions/freshmen/freshman-student-profile.shtml
To determine the MFA see below:
https://www.cpp.edu/admissions/freshmen/freshman-student-profile.shtml
Aside from academics, what are your child’s interests? I’d assume (but don’t know) going to Humboldt puts you smack in nature - whereas UCR at the edge of urban sprawl - although not too far from the desert or mountains.
One will likely be much more accessible to mom and dad - does that matter?
These kind of things.
I’ve looked at this page and I am still not 100% sure how to determine a student’s MFA. Clicking on “CPP Index” gives the information: "(A-G GPA x 1000) + 450 + values earned from the campus admission categories in “MFA Model”). Which A-G GPA is used? Is this the same as the UC Capped Weighted GPA? What are the values for the categories in “MFA Model”?
Unfortunately CPP does not spell out the additional points for the other factors considered in their MFA. If an applicant can meet the threshold using the CSU GPA formula listed without the other points, then they at least have a good chance at an acceptance. CPP is not as transparent as SJSU.
Edited: So in the case of ME, the applicant would need at least a 3.934 CSU GPA to meet the threshold without the other factors.
Yes, I saw the index for CPP ME major… that’s what has got me considering these other options for my son … he’s not likely to get accepted with his 3.67 CSU/UC (weighted capped) gpa. I’ve had to break the reality to him. He always thought he’d follow my footsteps and go to UCLA for undergrad and then USC for grad school. Times were different back when I applied 
. He hopes to stay fairly close to home.
Here’s what our list looks like for now:
Let’s see what happens! Ultimately I think the kids get rejected by the schools where they would drown anyway… so in a way things work themselves out. Better that they succeed at a lessor school than drown at a prestigious one. 
You were concerned with U of A costs -I assume you got $7500 at U of Arizona.
Just a little farther out - I went to U of New Mexico and used a 3.4 GPA. I think that’s what you put in - and no test score - and it shows this:
Western Undergraduate Exchange Plus Scholarship
$16,290
So at $44K total COA (which includes $2K for transport which you’d beat) and take $16K off - is this close enough - because it would be a safety.
Other “close” ABET MecH WUE possiblities include NAU (tuition $16K on WUE per website), UNLV at $11,200, Nevada (Reno) $11,200, and Oregon State - I mean if you’re going to Humboldt why not. $15840. Two wildcards - Oregon Tech $14358 and Wyoming - because it’s solid and it’s cheap - $6930.
So he does have opportunities - and some may be better even if he got into a Cal State.
Good luck
Yes, he got $7,500 from UofA. His admission to ASU is more enticing because of WUE (at the poly campus). I did consider some of the schools you mentioned… but since he wants to stay close to home, I think he will prefer a CSU over an OOS. I really appreciate all the insights you all have shared…thank you!
Since the ASU Polytechnic campus is some distance away from the ASU main campus, be sure to investigate what the experience would be like as an out-of-state resident student (i.e. is it mostly local commuters?).
Unless you’re a pilot, I would not go to Polytechnic. It’s gulp …in Mesa. If you want MechE you go to the Fulton School - and be at a true campus.
The reality is kids go to college to grow. And a 6 hr drive or 1 hr flight…You’ll realize when he’s gone that it won’t matter
It’s not like Arcata is close to home or easy to access.
But how about UNLV? Or Reno? I forget where you live but both will be as close as the AZ schools with easy transport.
Distance is a fair consideration but not at the expense of changing the direction of what u want and for you ASU would do that. Im a proud sun devil mba. Fine school but it’d be near last on my list for ME if not at Fulton. If I’m in Mesa it’s because I’m doing aviation related stuff.
That’s just me …
There are trade offs but what you study and the type of school you attend shouldn’t be part of that trade off list. Imho of course
ASU engineering majors are under the Ira R. Fulton Schools of Engineering, regardless of which ASU campus they are offered at. See ASU Engineering degrees | Ira A. Fulton Schools of Engineering and BSE in Engineering - The Polytechnic School . However, the engineering major at the Polytechnic campus is a general engineering major (but with subarea options), as opposed to an ME major.
Previous comment about investigating how an out-of-state residential student would experience the Polytechnic campus still stands.
One other thing - who wants the close distance - mom/dad or the student ?
College is a growth time. Many do get homesick.
My child is 8 hr drive or one hr flight away. Last year I flew her home - the boyfriend was 2k miles away blues. And then our dog needed fo get put down and I brought her home to say goodbye.
So it does happen. But you can make it work.
And with FaceTime everything is close….
Thx for correction. I’d learn about career outcomes too …
College Scorecard | College Scorecard lists the following median pay for ASU for recent graduates who got federal financial aid:
| Major | Degree | Pay level |
|---|---|---|
| Engineering, General | Bachelor’s | $80,283 |
| Mechanical Engineering | Bachelor’s | $77,618 |
However, there may be some effect based on student demographics if they differ significantly between Polytechnic (where Engineering, General is offered) and the main Tempe campus (where Mechanical Engineering is offered).
That’s great. I meant recruiting activities. The school will have an outcome report by campus - I didn’t see it but didn’t dig deep but if OP goes that way I’m sure more info can be found.
EDIT. I would also see if classes…ie liberal art electives/requirements are done there or Tempe. They have shuttles but are 50 minutes.
I hope this student finds a traditional college. I’ll stop pontificating.
My son was admitted to ASU as a Robotics major in the Fulton School of Engineering. Robotics is at the poly campus (which could be seen as a downside or upside depending on the environment one prefers). Since my son seems to be debating between ME and Robotics, I am having him apply to both majors at different schools. He says he’d prefer to stay in California, so ASU was just something I encouraged him to apply as a back up option (it just takes the pressure off a bit as we apply to the UC/CSUs which will be sending lots of rejections). Once we have all the admissions in hand, we will def visit every campus to help him find the right fit.
Do you mean the robotics concentration of the general engineering major described at BSE in Engineering - The Polytechnic School ?