calc 3 at U of M

<p>Smart people… There’s a 12 (maybe he’s 13 now) year old doing it.</p>

<p>Are you serious??? Prodigy. Wow.</p>

<p>What year are you giants? The 92 is throwing me off… Surely you weren’t born in 1992 right?</p>

<p>Lol, nope. I’m a junior. 92 was Michael Strahan’s number for the Giants (my favorite player). But yea I can see why that’s confusing.</p>

<p>Okay, cool. Are you a Math major?</p>

<p>And ab2013, I just noticed you were back! Hey!</p>

<p>Yes - and econ</p>

<p>I’m in math 255 (honors applied calc 3). Let me just say it sucks.
Homework takes a long time, and since it’s graded for accuracy, you have to be very careful.
The first exam was ridiculous. The average ranged from the 40s to the 50s depending on the section. It was just a horrible experience. It was curved, but the professors have been very vague about what means what.
I had the perception that homework would be the most difficult part (since it’s equal weight with the final exam), and that there would be some leniency on the exams, but I guess I was wrong.</p>

<p>I guess it could be worse but it is no way like it used to be (and I know this for a fact having talked to people who have taken it before).</p>

<p>giants92, do you take accounting classes as an econ major? Even if its not part of your core, you could still take it with an override right?</p>

<p>Ok since calc 3 seems to be a weedout course too, do you guys know how much it prepares you for the next math course (that is calc 4 as in differential equations amirite?). Cause if calc 3 isn’t really related to differential equations then I’m going to try to get U of M to let me skip it so that I can take differential equations instead. </p>

<p>Basically, what I’m asking is that is it worth skipping calc 3 to take diff equations or do you think calc 3 is an important class I should take? thanks</p>

<p>Calc 3 and Calc 4 are completely unrelated. If you’re an engineer, you have to take both anyway, but in LSA you could just skip straight to Calc 4 if you wanted to.</p>

<p>blackpen, just wondering, why did you choose Psychology when you are good at math?</p>

<p>Take calc 3 at a community college over the summer if you are worried about it. You don’t need calc 3 for calc 4, but why would you want to take calc 4 only? I can’t think of any majors that require calc 4 but not calc 3.</p>

<p>I would exactly describe myself good at math, but there came a point in calc 3 where I knew how to do the problems, but I had no idea what was going on. It went all above my head. When you start doing triple integrals and curl and div, it just didn’t appeal to me. And I really don’t have a strong passion for math anyway.</p>

<p>I choose psychology because it really cool to study. The department has great courses to choose from. I actually find psychology very useful, to better understand how cognition occurs in all areas of our lives.</p>

<p>Same experience as blackpen… Calc III is much harder than all the other math courses. I got A’s in Calc I, II, and I hold an A in Calc IV right now and I ended up with a B- in Calc III. It just doesn’t make sense… Take it at a community college…</p>

<p>295 is hard. In 296 right now. If you’ve got formal proof experience, it isn’t as bad. If you don’t prepare for rough times. Math ability of the class ranges quite a bit. There are some guys who are really, really, good at it, IMO-esque people, there’s some guys with AB/BC experience, and apparently some years there’s a kid or two who’ve only done pre-calc. That latter is more of a rumor I suspect, but I’ve heard it from a couple of people so eh. Just be warned that the class is a pretty big commitment: p-sets take a lot of time.</p>

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<p>No way. Although that would be really sweet I guess. All those guys (at least the American ones) head to Harvard/MIT/Princeton.</p>

<p>Good point. Mixed up my competition-terminology. S’rry. Could we argue the 12-year-old is kinda IMO level? :D</p>

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<p>Yes, you can take accounting courses if you’re not in Ross, as any concentrator. I’ve taken two (Intro + Intermediate Financial Acc). I believe you are capped at 20 credits. Ross is ****ing stupid in that you can’t get a minor. BBAs put “emphasis in XXXX” if they’ve taken only THREE courses in any given subject (i.e. Fin, Acc, Mkt), but I can’t even get a minor no matter how many courses I take in Ross. I might take just as many Fin or Acc courses as Ross kids who put “emphasis in Acc & Fin” but won’t get a credential to show for it.</p>

<p>You don’t need Calc 3 for Calc 4, at all.</p>

<p>^Don’t employers see your transcript anyways, what kind of classes you took? Plus, if someone was interested enough to take a lot of ross courses as a non-BBa, wouldn’t they tell interviewers about their business skills?</p>

<p>For accounting at least, if you take the required courses, you could get into a MAcc program even as a non-BBA major.</p>

<p>You’re probably better off employment-wise with a Math, CS, Engineering (maybe not CEE or BME), and maybe even Econ or Stats BS/BSE than an MAcc. MAcc really doesn’t net you much. And you’re certainly better off with a Masters in any one of those previously mentioned things than an MAcc.</p>

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<p>I’d say so. I had a 12 year old in my high school calc 1 class; I thought that was really impressive. 12 in 295? Yeah, ridiculous.</p>