calc 3 at U of M

<p>Ok I read that calc 1 and 2 are weed out courses. How is calc 3 relative to these two classes? Is it also considered a weed out course?</p>

<p>people say calc 3 is “easier”; I took it last semester and it was hell. I would say, in terms of exam and material wise, calc 3 is just as hard as calc 2, if not harder. Calc 4 is a joke though ;p</p>

<p>oh :/</p>

<p>you sure it doesn’t have to do with having different professors?</p>

<p>profs don’t matter much because everyone takes the same exam. The exams are ridiculously hard, but if you beat the avg by 20points, u’re probably gona get an A. So its really a game of outperforming everyone else.</p>

<p>How hard is calc 2? Should I go straight to calc 2 if I test out of calc 1 with an AP exam?</p>

<p>take 285 over 215. It’s much better/easier.</p>

<p>If I’m a Ross PA and tested out of Calc 1, will I have to take Calc 2? Are there other math alternatives?</p>

<p>Calc 3 is definitely a tough class. I placed right into it, but I’ve heard from those who took Calc 2 that 2 is the harder class. I personally thought adding the 3rd dimension made it tougher, but then again my Calc 2 exposure was from BC Calc in high school. I would definitely still consider 3 a weed out course; the exam averages are low and it’s curved to a B-/C+. That’s the definition of a weedout course.</p>

<p>I’ll recommend to everyone to take the honors classes (not the 295-296-395-396… unless you want to), but one of the other two honors sequences.</p>

<p>Just a warning: This semester they’ve bumped up the difficulty of the 255/285 sequence so that it isn’t such a blow-off class anymore. In my 286 class, they’ve had to curve the grades up by 15% or so on exams, but they still make sure the average is around a B+/A-, but do know that most people in honors are much more driven than those in regular (they will go out of their way to do practice questions and make use of office hours). I know there were people in my 285 class who ended up with a B or lower. </p>

<p>The grades that they hand out in 295 are actually generous, but do prepare to work to the death, because homework will take you many hours (let’s say you’ll start on day 1 and you’ll still need the rest of the week to finish it). If you’re a CS major, it will actually help in EECS 203, which does a ton of theoretical stuff. I was pampered in 285, so I’m having a tough time in 203 right now. 295 is also highly recommended for people who plan on doing research in the math field (going into academia).</p>

<p>^I don’t know how tough 285 is, but my friend has a B+ in calc 3 and he seems to do really well in eecs 203. He’s certainly a very bright man, but calc 3 was just ridiculous, imo.</p>

<p>blackpen how on earth is honors calc 3 easier than normal calc 3?? There must be some logical reason.</p>

<p>^This yr the coordinator makes the exam really hard for regular calc 3. honors calc 3 just has more hw i think.</p>

<p>Let’s just say that there was NO curve when I took it (F08), and the average ended up as an A-.
I even got a 100% on one of the exams.</p>

<p>well…you say “this year” so basically it could change next year right? And if I’m not in the honors college, how can I take honors calc 3 in the first place?</p>

<p>also blackpen do you mind me asking what major you are doing? calc 3 is a very high level of math compared to what most other people take.</p>

<p>285 wasn’t tough, and when I took it the exam average was a 90%. But I heard that 255 people are getting hit pretty hard. </p>

<p>EECS 203 is quite a hard class. No one in their right minds will say that it is easy.</p>

<p>I’m a psychology major.</p>

<p>psych majors take calc 3? wat.</p>

<p>I didn’t know I was gonna be a psych major then! It was my first semester.</p>

<p>The 295 etc. sequence seems insane. Essentially throwing yourself into real analysis as a freshman? Damn. You better be damn good at math if you go down that route.</p>