<p>From what I've found, you need to be in California for 12 months in order to get in-state tuition. Even if it were less time (or no time at all), you're still an out-of-stater since you're applying while living out of state; you don't even move to California until long after you apply.</p>
<p>I could be wrong, so I'll wait for someone else to speak.</p>
<p>Kyledavid80: page 113 of the 2007 US News Americas Best Colleges publication - the list I'm referring to is for colleges which don't give doctorates, only Bachelors and Masters - there's a separate list for doctoral level schools on the next page. They have separate rankings for engineering schools as a whole and for sub-specialialties such as computer engineering. I should have been clearer.</p>
<p>Would I be able to get good job placement in silicon valley if I went to san jose?</p>
<p>kluge: hmm, interesting. How many does it rank in that (the one including Cal Poly SLO)? Could you post more of it?</p>
<p>Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, UCSD, HMC are all good. If you need to pay OOS fee, I suggest you consider Cal and the private schools.</p>
<p>Please consider Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. They are a very well known engineering school. I would not consider anyone a shoo in for their engineering program.</p>
<p>I only read the first few posts but....</p>
<p>You do realize just because your family is moving after you graduate you are still an out of state applicant. You will be living in Michigan through the entire college process and will already be accepted into a college quite a while before you move.</p>
<p>I don't know percentages but UC school as an out of state applicant will be a lot harder to get into and with your stats (not that they are bad) Berkley and LA seem reaches for you. Not to mention you will have to pay out of state tuition</p>
<p>If you are interested in engineering you could still go to UMich with your grades or apply to a private college.
Depending on your other application factors such as community service and ECs ect. you will have a decent chance at some really good schools.</p>
<p>Stay in Michigan and go to Ann Arbor!</p>
<p>^^ lol</p>
<p>I actually agree; it'd probably be best just to stay in-state for Michigan, even though your family is moving. It is 1/3 out-of-state students, anyway.</p>
<p>The OP should really check on his residency status once his parents leave Michigan. Will he be able to hang on to his Michigan residence for 4 years even though his parents will be leaving the state before he even enters college? Or will he lose residence status during his stay at the University? Same with the UCs. Will he be eligible for in-state residence as soon as his parents arrive to California? Will it take a couple of years to get in-state status? Overall, which option will be cheapest?</p>
<p>Apply to a few UCs. A lot of them like UCSD have awesome computer engineering departments. Apply to Stanford if you can afford it. Cal Poly also has a decent computer science program.</p>
<p>If I went to say U of M, after a year wouldn't a be an out of stater? and then the tuition would increase significantly?</p>
<p>Also, since I want to work in silicon valley, I am looking at california schools that would let me do so.</p>
<p>I don't know MPC. That is why you have to do your research about residence status both at Michigan and at the UCs.</p>
<p>Your concerns about Michigan's reputation in Silicon Valley are reasonable but unecessary. Michigan's impact on, and reputation in Silicon Valley is clear. Alums like Larry Page, Claude Shannon, Bill Joy and Tony Fadell to name a few, have had a clear impact on modern day technology. And top Silicon Valley tech firms, like Microsoft, Sun, Cisco and Intel recruit very heavily on campus. That's not surprising considering Michigan has top 10, if not top 5 Electrical and Computer Engineering departments.</p>
<p>I agree with Alexander. Lots of U M alumni in the Bay Area. UCB is the only comparable to U M in terms of cost/quality. I think you should apply to UCB and UM to see which school you get in. If you get into both schools then choose UCB knowing that you have to pay OS for one year. I think your tuition should be in-state after one year. For U M, you may have to research on whether you qualify for in-state just by yourself not including your parent. It maybe that when you apply as in-state, you get in-state tuition for the rest of the 4 years.</p>
<p>Ok, well my dad will be moving to california in a week. Will this matter in whether I get instate or out of state tuition? the rest of my family will live in michigan until I graduate</p>
<p>Call the school and ask, you get more specific information.</p>
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<p>If you're talking about UM, then I'm pretty sure you'll still get in-state tuition since your parents have been paying taxes in Michigan.</p>
<p>If you're talking about UC's, expect out-of-state tuition since your parents haven't been paying taxes in California.</p>
<p>If you want to know more about UCLA, I suggest searching for flopsy on this forum. He is a wealth of information about computer engineering (and other engineering) at UCLA. UCSD has different colleges, but they have nothing to do with your major or your acceptance. It's a strange set up. I've heard from a student there that Revelle College is highly respected. I can only hypothesize that it's because Revelle has so many liberal arts requirements. Each UC has a slightly different feel to the campus and they all have different reputations for what it's worth. Remember, they are large schools and you will find all types of students at each of them. Plus, the schools are changing rapidly and the reputations may be slightly out-of-date. UCI has a reputation as boring, commuter, Asian. UCSB has a reputation as a party school and the most white of all the UC's. UCSC has a reputation as hippy (because of its lack of giving out letter grades until recently and because Santa Cruz itself is fairly liberal). UCD has a reputation as an agriculture school, including a strong veternary medicine program. UCR has the highest hispanic population.</p>
<p>Comes join the Dark Side at UC Merced... LOL.</p>
<p>For the UCs or Cal State system (including San Jose State) if your father has California residency for a year before you would start at the UCs, and you can show your family is moving you should have a chance of instate tuition. It varies by campus, you would have to contact the campuses you'd be attending to be sure. At most you would pay out of state tuition for one year, as your family would be living in California when you start school.</p>
<p>As for tests, they will take the ACT as long as you also took the writing suppliment. (So ACT + Writing). They take scores for one sitting on both the SAT or ACT, so you ACT score would be about the equivalent of a 2100 SAT in the eyes of the UC folks.</p>
<p>I worked at high tech companies in Silicon Valley for many years, until I retired. They recruited from UCBerkeley, UCDavis, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, Stanford, Cal Tech and San Jose State as well as other schools, including Michigan. The out of state schools did have to be pretty good to pay for the recruiting trips out there, but the local schools were just too easy to send folks for recruiting, so there you have it.</p>
<p>If you hadn't planned on applying to private schools in California, such as Stanford or Cal Tech, moving to California should not change that. They are just as hard to get into for in state or out of state residence, and no cheaper.</p>
<p>For Fall 2007, averages according to the UC website for fall 2007 freshman (Note: that's all freshmen, engineering is likely higher...)</p>
<p>Berkeley GPA 4.17 ACT 29
UCLA GPA 4.14 ACT 28
UCSD GPA 4.06 ACT 28
UCSB GPA 3.91 ACT 26
Davis GPA 3.89 ACT 26</p>
<p>I couldn't find the equivalent figures for San Jose State, but I would guess they are lower. They do mention they provide more graduates in Computer Science, Engineering and Business to companies in Silicon Valley than any other University. I believe that.</p>