<p>i got the northwestern HPME application, nothing hard to fill out so don't worry anyone. only essay is about why you want medicine.</p>
<p>haha im not at the stage of worrying about the essay, im still worried about getting the HPME app!
good to know its not a tough one though</p>
<p>Can someone please evaluate my chances at any of the 6,7,8 yr programs (especially GW, BU, RPI, Brown, Penn, TCNJ...or any u recommend) </p>
<p>SAT I: 1460 (710v, 750m)
SAT II: math IIc 800, writing 750, and just took chem (not too good tho) </p>
<p>gpa: 4 unweighted
rank: 1 out of 200
senior schedule: ap bio, spanish III honors, ap calc, ap stat, ap english</p>
<p>expecting 4/5 on the following ap's: chem, bio, english, calc, statistics </p>
<p>activities: NYLF on Medicine
NIH internship (8 hrs/day for 5 weeks)
Spanish Club 4 yrs
Class Cabinet 4 yrs
school volunteering club 4 yrs
NHS
Natl Society of HS scholoars
Who's Who (yea its dumb..but who cares)
tutoring (20+ hrs..still have to add those up)
volunteer at hospital (250 hrs)
science club
gifted and talented network
baseball (intramural)
NMSC commended student
bausch and lomb honorary science award (is that prestigious by the way?) </p>
<p>i must say the competition out there is tough looking at everyones stats!! </p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>Buckwald:</p>
<p>In order to get that HPME app, you already completed the Northwestern app and sent in the HPME info card? And then they sent you the app?</p>
<p>i filled out northwestern's application and then the card and sent it to them. i took SAT II writing and math IIC in october and am taking chem in novermber- they did not have any SAT II scores from me. Just a 1510 SAT and a 4.3 GPA and they sent me the applicaton. It is just a one page application that asks you to attach a "why medicne essay" fill out a few forms and have an ENGLISH teacher send a rec. Yes i said english, originaly i did my chem and math teachers for my recs, but they along with brown require english teacher recs. good luck!</p>
<p>hey kewlkiwi- I intern at NIH also. Where do you work? I'm at NCI.</p>
<p>just got my chem score in: 710</p>
<p>can someone please evaluate my chances (all the info is like 3 posts above)...thanks a lot</p>
<p>you have a good shot at all your program except brown!</p>
<p>which programs are considered the top, the best?...i doubt i have a shot at those but ur input would be highly appreciated, and recommendations for me based on my stats (4 or 5 posts up) would be great...thanks</p>
<p>forgot to add...how are my chances at columbia, cornell, and nyu if i opt take the traditional 4-yr,MCAT,med school route (which brings up another question...if i was to complete a 4 yr curriculum in 3 yrs by taking summer classes, would it be possible for me to get into med school early? And is it even possible to get all the credits that fast?)</p>
<p>sorry for all the questions</p>
<p>thanks again</p>
<p>your chances at colombia, cornell, and nyu are very good. the best programs are almost impossible to get into and they include: Northwestern's, Brown's, Rice's, and Case Western's in order from hardest to easiest of those.</p>
<p>Buckwald, when did you send in the postcard to northwestern?</p>
<p>I sent it in mid September and got the application last friday.</p>
<p>the ranking of progs from best to "worst" is rice, brown, psu, u of r, case, northwestern.......</p>
<p>heh buckwald are you the person whose dad will help your already nice stats to get urself into the hpme program? im guessing you have a great shot, but how do you think northwestern's program considers sibling legacy because my brother went the HPME route in '95 / '96 and I was hoping that could help me: stats are 1520 sat's, 800 iic 740 writ 730 chem, 10 / 814 in best public school in SD and 4.6 weighted gpa and 3 research experiences...I should be able to at least get an interview? oh also my other brother went the 6 year route with rpi, and he liked the program a lot. he was i think 19 when he entered med school because of the program</p>
<p>The "ranking" of programs all depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for highest to lowest selectivity, that will be one list. If you are looking for easiest to fulfill requirements once accepted to hardest, that will be different. etc. </p>
<p>And in all honesty, the programs generally known to be the "best" all have about equal numbers of pros and cons.</p>
<p>That said, rice/baylor is amazing! although i am somewhat biased! :)</p>
<p>Good luck, all of you!</p>
<p>i've been told that certain programs value legacy more than others do, and that northwestern really likes legacy. Having your brother at the HPME will definitly help you, and could help you even more if he knows a lot of the professors and admissions people or maybe does alumni interviews in the area. With your stats, I can defintely see you getting an interview, but make sure you have good essays. I had two kids at my school apply for Northwestern's HPME lst year and a girl with a 1380, ok extra-curriclars, and SAT II average of 720 not only got into the program, but got an interview. While she was hispanic, she had fabulous essays which really propelled her. I don't think you should have a problem getting an interview, and if your brother knows the person who is interviewing you, that could definitely propel you. I wish you the best of luck!</p>
<p>also i forgot to mention that the HPME Application is a one page, double sided application, and on it they take the space to ask you if anyone in your family has attended the HPME and their is a check box for sibling!</p>
<p>jenskate ur at rice/baylor! (haha...jesus christ)...would u mind telling us about your stats and interview?</p>
<p>sure, i'd love to. </p>
<p>SAT: 1540 (800V, 740m)</p>
<p>SATIIs: 790 BioM, 790 Math IIC, 770 writing (i think, i kind of forget that one!)</p>
<p>GPA: my school was on a really weird scale, but I had something like 5/5.4 (although the most anyone really could get was 5.2 or something...basically i didn't have anything other than A's and A+'s in almost all honors and AP, except for health, chorus, and a computer programming course that weren't honors.</p>
<p>Rank: top 10%, although i was really close to making the top 5%, so i think my counselor might have written top 6%, maybe...</p>
<p>EC's:
Science research (I've posted about what i did on other threads if you are interested)
President of my high school's science olympiad team, which went to nationals that year
Academic team (like quiz bowl)
national honor society</p>
<p>Volunteer work:
Hospital Volunteer 300+ hours
Founder and assistant coach of special olypics long island figure skating program
NYC olympic bid comittee special events volunteer
historical reenactor (weird, i know)</p>
<p>awards:
national merit scholar
intel sts semi
ap scholar
bausch and lomb science award</p>
<p>ok, i think that's about it. I hope that helps in terms of my stats - so you can see, they were reasonable, but not perfect, so fear not.</p>
<p>As for the interview...</p>
<p>It was actually surprisingly fun.</p>
<p>Here are my top tips for it:</p>
<p>Wear a suit! (guys AND girls) I didn't want to, fearing that I'd look stuffy and over dressed. My mom kind of forced me to, and boy was I glad when I saw that EVERY candiate was wearing one!</p>
<p>Wear comfortable shoes. Mine hurt so bad I could barely walk, no lie. I would hobble to the room where my interviewer was waiting, and then be like, ok stand up straight, smile, shake hands, and sit as fast as possible! it was rough.</p>
<p>Read the rubric if it's given to you and play the game! At Rice/Baylor interviews (which are the only ones i've been to) they gave out a folder of info. In this folder, there was the rubric that the interviewer was supposed to use to "grade" us. We were to give our copy to our interviewer when we went to meet them. So, I read the rubric and made sure to specifically mention things that I knew fit into the rubric. </p>
<p>Prepare a couple of questions if possible. And don't be afraid to make the interview a dialogue rather than just a scary doctor asking you weird questions.</p>
<p>get e-mail addresses of your interviewers, and jot them a quick note thanking them afterwards.</p>
<p>The rice/baylor interviews work like this, in case you are interested:
you have to meet at rice during admitted students weekend, very early one morning, like 6:00 am or something. Theydrive you across the street to BCM, where you meet the person running the interview, they feed you also, but most people can't really eat too much. I had a glass of water. lol. Anyway, you have 2 interviews, both one on one, with a doctor and a student, or with 2 doctors. (I had a doc and a student).
These last like 45 minutes each, i think. They didn't ask the weird questions I was fearing, things like "if you were a vegetable, which vegetable would you be?" I got tripped up on a question - who has influenced you the most? I said that it was a difficult question, and I wasn't sure if I could name one person. So I didn't. I named my parents, my 7th grade science teacher, and this boy who was president of my junior class before he died from a chronic disease. I don't think they cared that I didn't have a prepared answer to everything, in fact, i think they liked it. Anyway, after the interviews, you could elect to walk or get driven back to rice. I got driven, the shoes were too much. They told us if we had made it or not, by e-mail, and then a written letter, less than a week later, i think.</p>
<p>I know you didn't ask this, papcutta, but for those who might know less than you about rice/baylor, I will give the super quick rundown:</p>
<p>8-year program with Rice University and Baylor College of Medicine both in Houston, TX.
MCAT not required, minimum GPA is 3.2 overall, and 3.0 in the pre-med classes.
To apply, you must first be accepted to Rice under the ED or interim decision plans, (I was ED) and then they send you a supplemental app, consisting of two 1 page essays: why do you want to be a doc and why at BCM?, and what's your favorite EC/academic/volunteer experience (i think i wrote about special olympics).</p>
<p>about 200 people apply (have already been accepted to rice) for between 17 and 20 spots, to make a class of about 15 entering rice/baylor kids each year. I've heard that my class has 13, but I'm not sure about that.</p>
<p>Major strengths of the program:
limited requirements to fulfill - other programs, like the one at wash u in st louis, make you achieve stats so high that you'd likely be accepted into their med school anyway! </p>
<p>Being across the street from texas med center as an undergrad is cool - i actually am going in 2 hours for my texas children's volunteer orientation. Lots of opportunities there.</p>
<p>Rice and Baylor are both great, great schools - maybe second only to brown in that respect. maybe.</p>
<p>Cheap - rice costs lots less than schools, like brown, northwestern, or wash u, and i think most kids in rice/baylor are getting merit aid as well...bcm is also cheap, especially if you establish texas residency, which i plan to do.</p>
<p>I hope this helped! Maybe I'll see you guys here next year! Good luck!</p>
<p>thanks man i really appreciate your help, my brothers have helped me a great deal in high school but they hardly remember the admissions process. However, if u guys want to run a question by them im sure i could ask them and see if they could be of any help</p>