Can someone tell me about the Martial Arts Studio in the ARC?

<p>Hey guys! Sorry for asking a lot of questions around here.</p>

<p>Can someone at Davis tell me a bit about the Martial Arts Studio / Mat Room in the ARC at Davis?</p>

<p>I would love to know the following:

  • How many heavy bags/punching bags are there?
  • Are we allowed to roll/grapple/wrestle in there with other people? One-on-one? A group?
  • Is it usually crowded or pretty empty?</p>

<p>Thanks!!</p>

<p>omg i didnt even know they had one… makes me even more excited to attend there
sorry i can’t answer your question …but i would also like to know :]</p>

<p>They do :slight_smile: What do you practice?</p>

<p>Ah yes, I believe this is my area of expertise!</p>

<p>The Martial Arts Room is reasonably large, definitely large enough for full open kata/forms. Chinese forms, which require a bit more space, will have to be broken up in parts.</p>

<p>If you plan on practicing your own martial art style from home on your own, you’ll have to plan around the classes which use the studio. You can find their schedules here: [ARC</a> Calendar martial](<a href=“http://campusrecreation.ucdavis.edu/cms/mycalendar.aspx?linkit=martial]ARC”>http://campusrecreation.ucdavis.edu/cms/mycalendar.aspx?linkit=martial)</p>

<p>However you might want to try a new martial art and check out one of the great classes/clubs at Davis. And TELL YOUR FRIENDS, first week of school is “try before you buy,” you can go to all the classes/clubs for completely free. In fact most clubs/classes are so welcoming you can talk to them about wanting to try it out for 2 weeks. Just an FYI, Flavio Meier, who is now teaching the BJJ, grappling, and MMA classes is a great instructor and top notch martial artist. He got his black belt from Gracie’s and he’s just a nice guy (personal experience in his grappling class). I’d still be taking the class except I’m focusing on grades a lot more this quarter.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, the punching bags/gear is only to be used by the official classes held in the MA room, so you won’t have legitimate access to it. Although, you can check out the heavy punching bag or speed bag downstairs. They won’t let you use them without gloves or hand wrappings though for sanitary reasons.</p>

<p>Technically individuals are not allowed any physical contact practice such as grappling/wrestling/sparring. The reason is pretty obvious. I personally saw two people decide to grapple, one guy’s arm was fractured and the ambulence had to carry him out. Classes are the only sanctioned times in the MA room for this, which gives you more incentive to try out the classes. I wouldn’t test it personally, but if you’re going to try, only extremely light/casual/0 contact sparring will be safe for yourself and others. However, the larger the non class group you have trying to do this, the less control you will have and others might get all of you kicked out.</p>

<p>Weapons are also not allowed in the MA room. I’ve even asked personally since the wording is vague, but no weapons at all are allowed. This is for damage control with all the mirrors in the room and so that no one accidentally is hit by a sai/bo staff/katana/etc…</p>

<p>Like I showed with the example, there are some key times to go. Personally, judo club always interferes with my plan (M/W/F 8-10 pm). But when the classes aren’t in there’s usually enough room. </p>

<p>And if you really need room, I’d suggest going into the Pavilion when its open. You’ll have a lot more room for sparring/katas/weapons with virtually zero of the restrictions the MA room has. The same problem of club practices in the Pavilion applies though. For example the Kendo and Wushu clubs both have practices in the Pavilion, as well as some dance clubs and stuff. To make things a bit more complicated, there’s no set schedule to look for the times clubs will be in the Pavilion. </p>

<p>Sorry for the long answer but I got all excited by this question! Let me know if you have any others!</p>

<p>EDIT: And when you do go, my plea is that you tell friends not to hog the mats! It always irks me when others are disrespectful in there, considering what it is for.</p>

<p>IDK if anyone here has that kind of specialized knowledge. Why not go to the ARC and find out?</p>

<p>ETA: Never mind, the guy above me just wrote an encyclopedia article about martial arts at the ARC.</p>

<p>No need to apologize! Awesome answer, just the kind of detail I needed!!</p>

<p>I personally practice MMA (10-2 amateur so far) with a focus on BJJ (I just love no Gi grappling). I was looking a lot into the schedules and classes – but I didn’t know about try before you buy! I actually just looked up Flavio earlier today, too.
I’d definitely be interested in his MMA or sub grappling class (not BJJ for the sole reason that the BJJ would be for use in MMA or no Gi grappling, and BJJ would teach a lot of Gi-based chokes which I have close to no experience with).</p>

<p>I’ll be bringing with me my own gloves and wraps so that isn’t an issue. Just happy to have a bag around.</p>

<p>As for injuries in grappling, of course it’s always possible but either those guys were really big, or one or both of them were a little inexperienced or overzealous. Even in fights, I don’t crank on most subs (especially armbars and heel hooks) because I don’t want to hospitalize my opponent (who in many cases will be a friend of mine as well). I’m 5’7", 135-145 pounds (currently 141 trying to get to 155 within a year or so). At my size, I’ve not received or given any kind of serious injury while rolling. Of course being careful has a lot to do with it too, and occasionally it’s casual so as soon as it’s clear someone would be completing a submission, the opponent will tap so you can reset without ripping your buddies’ arms off. </p>

<p>A friend of mine just told me that he has gotten away with rolling around in the martial arts room anywhere from 15 minutes to 2 hours before getting kicked out. Is there a consequence to this, or do they just tell you to cut it out and leave?</p>

<p>EDIT IN RESPONSE TO YOUR EDIT: I will only be up there with 2 close friends on campus – one will not roll, and the other has no experience but really wants to learn from me. He’s a Regent’s Scholar, so that gives you an idea the type of guy he is. Also I assure you that any group I am overseeing or am responsible for will abide by the strict code of conduct I expect from them and from myself when in a martial arts setting of any kind. :)</p>

<p>Haha Acuraman93, at any rate I am both too impatient and too unwilling to drive 100-something miles to look at the mat room, ask some questions then drive back 100-something miles :stuck_out_tongue: I figured id try my luck posting – it paid off ^_^</p>

<p>Hahah of course.</p>

<p>So true, typically it seems to be novices/overzealous people that end up getting hurt.</p>

<p>I’m sure you could get away with the sparring/grappling, but personally I wouldn’t know what the consequences are because I’ve never completely tried. The people that would kick you out are students too so I doubt it would be rough, but my employment for next year might be in jeopardy if I did anything wrong, so its just not worth it for me.</p>

<p>And I’m the same way, once you got me in a submission, its pretty clear whether he could get it or not and its not worth it to potentially mess yourself up if you’ve got 0 to no chance.</p>

<p>Response to your edit: Haha, no no I didn’t think so, I even changed my edit cause I knew what I said was misworded. :slight_smile: But if your friend is a Regent’s Scholar, I would advise him to look into what sort of standards he needs to uphold with the University. I really doubt that anything happening at the ARC would affect his Regents status, but that’s my initial concern right there.</p>

<p>EDIT: The grappling class is good, its about an hour of practicing moves (most of which you’ll probably already know or pick up on very easily) and 30 mins of just rolling. That’s where you’ll get your fun in.</p>

<p>The only time I ever hold submissions for too long is when I know I’m just messing around with my girlfriend and she’s tapping but I KNOW not doing it very hard at all and shes being a baby, just to be mean because she never punches me very hard (even when I tell her to!) unless I’m hurting her achille’s tendon :P</p>

<p>What is your employment exactly? I intend to work while I’m at Davis, too. As for the consequences of grappling in the MA room, my friend just told me that its students that work there and the shifts change all the time so people are just doing their job and there’s never been a consequence for him; they just tell him that its a liability issue so they must leave.</p>

<p>As for Daniel’s Regents status, that is a good call, I’ll have him make sure it wouldn’t jeopardize that. Worst case as an alternative to rolling, I’d just use the space like in a dorm room to teach him basic defense and offense of submissions.</p>

<p>As for practicing moves, it would not hurt me to brush up on the basics! For some reason I think I’m really bad at cutting off the proper angle on triangle chokes because they take longer to finish than they should. But otherwise I’m good with:

  • Armbars from mount, guard, and back (side control too but usually won’t go for an armbar from side)
  • Kimura from guard (but not from mount or side for some reason)
  • Triangle from mount and guard
  • Heel hooks from basically anywhere I can get a leg
  • Keylock/Americana from side control
  • Most choke variations on Guillotine, Rear Naked, D’arce etc.</p>

<p>The only thing I am basically clueless on is kneebars because I’ve never been anywhere (even in casual friendly grappling) where I allow kneebars. I’m not trying to break my leg or break someone else’s leg just because we didn’t know that it’d break even though it wasn’t hurting.
So yes – rolling around would be fun. It looked like the classes are $60 for the quarter, twice a week? If so that’s a really good deal on instruction.</p>

<p>P.S. I’m gonna head off to bed now but thanks for all the detail! I’ll be back on tomorrow we can probably continue to geek off in the future haha thanks again for the time!!</p>

<p>Hahaha, yeah it is fun to do that to girlfriends. It’s also funny with little brothers and such. Ah ok, yeah didn’t think it would be much of a problem but I’m very cautious. I’ll be employed by a division of the University and have to set an example as part of the employment. Even so, I don’t think you should worry to the extent I do.</p>

<p>Really though, don’t worry about it much or have him worry about it too much. ARC staff is definitely much more laid back than the rest of the campus staff and I don’t think they communicate to the other areas.</p>

<p>Strangely enough, I have that angle problem on my triangles too! We definitely worked on them as well and I’m pretty sure my problem is something I am or am not doing with my hips/body. You’ll also get a chance to brush up on the side kimura, going from guard is a lot more natural for me though. We never really covered kneebars but if you want to work them, Flavio would probably be willing even if its only working them when rolling with him. </p>

<p>And yeah classes/clubs at Davis are usually extremely cheap to what you’d find elsewhere. Classes are usually in the $60 range and clubs in the $20 range. There used to be an MMA club years back but it just sort of fell apart, or so I heard. And Flavio usually will invite you to come train in his own off-campus class in Woodland. I don’t want to say he’ll do it again cause it’ll disappoint you if he doesn’t, but he told us that he always welcomed his UCD class to train in his normal class for free, so that’s another huge bonus if he continues that policy. Yeah, its usually a bit inconvenient since it requires a bus ride/car trip, but you can find the site here: [Northern</a> California Martial Arts](<a href=“http://norcalmartialarts.com/index.htm]Northern”>http://norcalmartialarts.com/index.htm)</p>

<p>And np! Night and hope to see you at Davis in the fall!</p>

<p>haha little brother and girlfriend are regular victims to any new trick I learn!
I think my issue with triangles is my hips. I think if I throw my right leg over the shoulder, I need to be a bit more diagonally off to the left. I think. But I’m not really sure.</p>

<p>I dont needa cover kneebars. Maybe kneebar defense but I’d almost rather be a bit ignorant as to how to complete a kneebar so I never can injure someone with one.</p>

<p>The $60 classes are by quarter correct? So it’s like 30 bucks a month, twice a week? That’s a really good deal if so.</p>

<p>Thanks again! I already SIR’d so I will be attending this fall :D</p>