<p>His ALO (USAFA) administered his CFA and has the official results from that test. This ALO (AF Col.) was a little bit shocked,and maybe somewhat hurt, to hear that my son had also applied to USNA. Anyway, he is not releasing the the CFA results to the BGO from USNA. Now, the lady at the USNA will not email or call the AFA Col. because she says, "He should just send me the information without me calling or emailing him." Colonel says: "I won't release CFA w/o contact from BGO." So, we have reached an impass. Son has offered the Navy to retake the CFA at their convenience but they said no. Son has sent numerous emails and letters to all parties, asking one to release information to the other (with stamped self-addressed letter enclosed) to no avail.</p>
<p>Any suggestions for recourse at this point? Anyone had similar situation? Son just wants to keep all options open and is getting annoyed. I can understand the the ALO might be put out because he did take the time to administer the CFA, though I don't understand it when it has reached the level of non-cooperation. I also don't understand the USNA not contacting the ALO. ARGH!!!!</p>
<p>I'd tell him to pretend he's at work. Send cc's of all e-mail requests to the USAFA ALO to the Regional Admissions Officer. Good luck. This sounds very childish.</p>
<p>Different SAs have different requirements as to who may administer the test. </p>
<p>It does sound childish of the ALO. However, I am not real familiar with their jobs, but I don't think it is in his job description. Furthermore, it would not be done officially on the CGIS system so it probably would be difficult to validate. </p>
<p>Call AFA and ask them to forward it. I am pretty sure it is properly done admissions office to admissions office.</p>
<p>Jeez, can't believe the ALO. I now have a marginal candidate who, careerwise and education desires, is a better fit for WP (and WP is kinda his first choice, I think, even though he won't admit it to me) who I am pumping to be better prepared on his CFA before I administer it because WP counts it more than USNA does.</p>
<p>Not quite sure if each ALO is different; or the fact that the Air Force application is online and the candidate just posts their scores online, but on the application instructions to the examiner for the CFA, it says for the ALO to make a copy of the results and give it to the candidate. But then, it also mentions the ALO sending the results to the academy. Not sure if that's any longer required being the candidate puts their scores in online. Either way, they should have given your son a couple of the scores. Ask for that. Then you can send a copy to the Navy if you want on your own.</p>
<p>S does have a copy of the scores but USNA doesn't want the copy, and wants it to have the signature of the person who administered the test, the ALO from USAFA. Very frustrating, but thanks for the advice!</p>
<p>AF Col. still not reporting scores to BGO after official request. So, S will probably have to re-do CFA for USNA. Very frustrating situation though. Navy will not accept scores which come directly from S. </p>
<p>You might mention it in your call to admissions and ask why he wouldn't send it. If there is no reason that admissions would prohibit the ALO sending the scores to USNA, you might want to complain. ALOs are supposed to help their candidates...</p>
<p>USNA69 is correct. The way it went with our daughter is her MALO administered the CFA and sent the results to USMA. As soon as daughter saw the results posted online at USMA, she emailed her USMA admissions person requesting that they send the results to USNA. The CFA was marked as received at USNA within 48 hours. She was told this was the standard way to propagate the results to other academies and it worked very well. Good luck!</p>
<p>Yep, let me make a third attempt here. USNA will not accept an unofficial score. They would not accept the ALOs report, no matter if it were an original or a copy. They would not accept the ALOs test, forwarded to USNA by the BGO. For the BGO to report it, he would have to do the online report and falsely state that he had witnessed it. Not something he should do.</p>
<p>If you don't want the admissions offices of one or both of the academies to know you are applying to both, you will have to do two CFAs.</p>
<p>The sole reason that the SAs got together and made a common fitness test was so the candidates, no matter to how many they are applying, will only have to complete it once.</p>
<p>Hopefully you can find someone to accomodate you before you have to remind them of this.</p>
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<p>Well, at least 4 out of 5 did.</p>
<p>The US Coast Guard Academy uses a slightly different fitness test for admissions, so a candidate applying there and to another SA would be required to complete two tests.</p>
<p>CGA uses the old PFE. However, one of my candidates tells me that, commencing this year, they will accept the CFA, if administered by another Academy. Nothing official. Maybe someone could confirm or deny.</p>
<p>Yes they will take the CGA results, but it's not recommended.</p>
<p>From the official score sheet: </p>
<p>We will accept the Candidate Fitness Assessment (CFA) in lieu of the PFE Scoring Form enclosed in this forms package. Whenever possible, the CFA should have been administered after July 1, 2007 and be a signed original, a copy of the original re-signed/dated by the applicant and administrator, or received directly from another federal service academy. Depending on your CFA score, you may be asked to complete and submit the PFE. Even if your CFA score is acceptable, we highly recommend that you take the PFE, as this is the standard which you will be held to at the U.S. Coast Guard Academy.</p>
<p>When the official application form states clearly "we highly recommend", I would follow that recommendation and take the PFE if I were applying.</p>
<p>I read that as one can submit the CFA for admissions purposes, no problems, but, in addition, be darned sure they can pass the PFE, since they will be tested on it routinely once they enter the Academy. Also, if the submitted CFA is below passing, they will be requested to take the PFE.</p>
<p>Any other interpretation would not make a lot of sense in that they would be contradicting themselves.</p>
<p>Then why do they bother looking at CFA scores? Passing the PFE is much easier than the CFA. There must be a reason the USCGA is accepting the CFA this year - or even willing to look at it.</p>
<p>The CGA even gives you a chart so you can see how many points you get for the PFE. With the CFA a candidate really can't tell if their test was passing or not - just how close they got to the maximums.</p>
<p>I've spoken directly, in person, to Captain Susan Bibeau, the head of admissions for the USCGA. She has said exactly what I said. Yes, they will accept it, but if a candidate wants to present the BEST possible application to the board, they will take the PFE as recommended. Call her yourself and ask her, Mr BGO. (864) 444-8500</p>