Chance a Junior for Ivies? So nervous..

<p>Objective:</p>

<ul>
<li>SAT I (breakdown): 2260 (780M, 790W, 690CR)-will take again to raise CR score.</li>
<li>ACT: N/A</li>
<li>SAT II: Bio E - 800, Math Level 2 - 800, Planning to take Chem at the end of the year and do very well</li>
<li>Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.9 </li>
<li>Rank - 1/200ish</li>
<li>AP (place score in parenthesis): Only took Biology so far (5). Planning to take AP Calc BC, AP Gov, AP Chem, and AP USH at the end of this year and doing well.</li>
<li>Sophomore Year Course Load: AP Biology, Honors English, Precalculus Honors (only sophomore in class), AP US History I, Spanish III Honors, Honors Chem</li>
<li>Junior Year Course Load: AP US History II, AP Gov, AP Calc BC (only junior in the class, only one taking BC test), AP Chem, Spanish IV Honors, Honors English </li>
<li>Senior Year Course Load: AP Stat, AP Euro, AP Spanish, AP English, AP Physics
(Will graduate with 10 AP's total)</li>
</ul>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Co-curricular/Extracurricular Activities Resum</p>

<p>Hey misterwang, first off, I'd like to congratulate you on your class rank as this is the first thing colleges will probably admire when they turn to your profile. Now, I will tell you now that I am not your standard "chance me to chance you back poster". I am not here to boost your ego, or quell any sort of anxiety that is strangling you as I type these very words. I am here to give you a real picture, an accurate assessment of your chances. Now here's what I think...</p>

<p>First, your class rank/gpa is spectacular. Good job. Your SAT is also quite good, good enough. At the moment, however, the only schools I would label as a low reaches are Dartmouth, Brown, and Cornell: here is why. Your numeric stats are very good, however your EC's are severely lacking in focus. You have karate. You have music. You have Biology. You have Chemistry. You have Physics. You have Neuroscience. You have Spanish and NHS. I look at these and I can't see this picture of you, this spark of passion that admissions officers are looking for. You lack focus, and this is what's barring you from most of the Ivy's. None of your extracurriculars come out as extremely unique. Sure, your band has gone far, but unless you plan to major in music, that won't give you an advantage against every other Ivy applicant who plays violin, flute, french horn, and bassoon on the side. This summer, if your goals remain, you need to work on getting something unique and by spending more time on one individual area of study. Since you plan on shadowing a surgeon, you may want to found an organization in the poorer neighborhoods to encourage kids to pursue science (I'm assuming this is where you want to major in, but I know because you've mentioned that you PLAN to shadow a surgeon, and not because it's officially on your transcript). Uniqueness, uniqueness, uniqueness. You must work on this if you wish to compete for spots even in the middle ivies. Honestly, Mr. Wang, you look like every other Asian applicant: good at science, music, and math.</p>

<p>All in all, if you continue down the route you've taken, I can only label Cornell, and posibly Dartmouth and Brown, as low reaches. The rest are still high reaches unless you can work on the putting your passion into your extracurriculars. You are a competitive applicant, but schools these day want you to give more! Here is what I propose:</p>

<p>Give up on retaking the SAT, it's honestly not worth your time, and instead focus your EC's and work on getting into something unique. That is all, I hope you take my advice, as this is the only way you can hope to get your chances up.</p>

<p>Thanks for your insight, hollow.</p>

<p>I have a question, though. I have heard that colleges prefer well rounded students as opposed to those who completely focus on one topic. Many times have I seen people on the "chance me" thread being too focused on academics, too much on extracurriculars and not focused enough on academics.. </p>

<p>But truthfully, even though my extracurriculars look very scattered, they accurately reflect my interests. I would love to continue Taekwondo in my later life, as well as possibly minor in music. </p>

<p>But thanks so much again for the reality check.</p>

<p>i feel like a nothing to you..sigh*</p>

<p>to be honest i dont even know why you asked.
if you think about it logically...
ur stats are better than most most most most applicants.
why not?
why do you have to ask?
isnt it obvious you have a chance?
for a place like harvard or princeton, unless ur that 1 in a million, it pretty much comes to dumb luck (this could be good or bad:P)</p>

<p>if it makes you feel any better,
my friend last year got into cornell with half of half of your ec's and scores.
good luck</p>

<p>Mr. Wang, there is a lesson in the college extracurricular game that applies to all of life: follow your own path, do what you love. If you love TKD, do it. If you love band, do it. Yet, no matter what you do, do it with passion and do it with everything you've got. Top colleges love to see this, and, the best thing you can do to feed them is to dig deeper and do something unique with it. How many black belts do you think apply to Harvard a year? THink about it. How many black belts founded a free dojo (ok, I hope that's the right word) in their garage to teach underprivledged children self defense? It's depths that will be your greatest weapon. I don't know your situation, but I can describe what I know about the asian mentality. My parents went to undergraduate universities in Taiwan. My mom was accepted into the best university in Taiwan: and why? Because she took the standardized test of the time and scored high. She got (the equvialent of) an 800 in math, chinese, science, etc etc etc...Yet, she wanted to be an engineer, and what? All that time learning the kreb cycle, adipose tissue components, and pig dissections were useless to her. I think, Asia in general, focuses on these prodigies who excel at everything and its a mindset our elders have carried over. America is slightly different in this: be the best you can be at what you love. All I can say is that.</p>

<p>Btw: I'm assuming your Korean, so maybe that last part above isn't as true. I don't know precisely how education works in the motherland. Haha, a username of misterwang almost convinced me your chinese; "wang" happens to be my mother's surname :P</p>

<p>Totally disagree about not retaking the SAT. He needs to raise the CR score. Schools like Dartmouth really care, they get a ton of applicants with 800 SAT scores and they want strong CR scores too. The median at Dartmouth and Brown is about 730 and it would be important for the OP to achieve that.</p>

<p>As for EC's, it's all about how you present them. Take a look at the Common App and see how little space there is. If your passion comes through in your essays and recs, it's all that matters for most schools. HYPS want national/international honors, others don't expect them.</p>

<p>I think having a fourth degree black belt demonstrates sufficient passion for a sport. That is like being honorable mention All-American in football, volleyball, track and field, or swimming. Willingness to officiate the sport also shows dedication.</p>

<p>Good luck to you. Harvard is a reach for anyone. You have the stats and EC's. Unfortunately for you and fortunately for Harvard several thousand other kids do also and want to go there.</p>

<p>Don't obsess about one particular school. Get some good second choices and safeties.</p>

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Totally disagree about not retaking the SAT. He needs to raise the CR score. Schools like Dartmouth really care, they get a ton of applicants with 800 SAT scores and they want strong CR scores too.

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<p>Very much agreed. Besides the fact that CR is widely regarded as the most difficult section among universities, a 2260, although very impressive, is nothing out of the ordinary for Ivy League admissions officers. If you can get to a 2300~2350 superscore with a high CR section you'll be in good shape. Your EC's, not unlike your SATs, are impressive--but nothing special. They're definitely "above average," but you can't rely on them to get you in. </p>

<p>So, assuming you get that SAT score up, I'd say you have great chances at the Ivy League. </p>

<p>HYP - maybe 30% at each (compared with the 8% chance that the average applicant has)
Columbia/Penn - 40% at each?
Rest - 50%</p>

<p>You get the point. You'll definitely get into some Ivies, it's just a matter of which ones and how many.</p>

<p>Of course you have a chance, don't be ridiculous!</p>

<p>Haha yeah, but so does everyone. I just want to know the likelihood of being accepted so I have a good understanding of where to apply..</p>

<p>-study the common data sets for the schools
-study scattergrams for your school
- look at who else is applying from your school and how many each ivy historically takes from your school--are any legacies, URMs or recruited athletes?
-consider whether you're from an over or under represented state
-consider any tip factors you may have like low income/first generation
-consider any factors that effect you that raise the bar--high income, top school</p>

<p>Then you'll have a much better read than you'll get here with all the feel good posters who want to assure you that you'll get in so they can assure themselves they will.</p>

<p>"I have heard that colleges prefer well rounded students as opposed to those who completely focus on one topic. "
This is NOT correct. College admission offices are looking to create a well rounded CLASS made up of many different types of students. Being an accomplished student with great passions and special interests to which you have devoted considerable time and energy will help to differentiate your application from other students. Being different and accomplished, is never a disadvantage.</p>

<p>Is it better for me if practically no one ever gets into ivies from our town? I think we have a Dartmouth this year.. But she's hispanic and got recruited for softball.</p>

<p>does anyone have an answer? haha</p>

<p>geographical location of applicants is one of the LEAST important factors in admissions decisions.</p>

<p>When the adcom has to reject 8 to 11 qualified applicants for every one they let in, there are no unimportant factors.</p>

<p>It is too late and not really reasonable/possible to do anything about where you live, so do not worry about it.</p>