chance an International for IVYs and top LACs

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Hi guys,</p>

<p>Here's my profile : </p>

<p>GPA :no GPA but GCE A Level predicted scores : AAAAA (most demanding courseload in my school)</p>

<p>Math
Phy
Chem
Econs
General Paper</p>

<p>rank : 1st out of 30 students
schools : I've moved to several schools
-Private school in singapore (received a scholarship)
-a Magnet school in one of the ex-conflict area in Indonesia (attended with scholarship)</p>

<p>Nationality : Indonesian
Language spoken : Bahasa Indonesia, English, French
SAT 1 : cr 680 m 770 w 700 (superscored)</p>

<p>SAT 2 : math 710 chem 790 phy 750
TOEFL/IELTS : haven't taken up one yet</p>

<p>ECs, organizations and leaderships </p>

<p>+Prefectorial Board - Head Boy/Prefect Master (equivalent to clss president)
+Leo Club (youth community service/volunteer organization) - President, founder
+Debate Club - Co Leader, Founder
+School's broadcast system - Chairman
+Athletic CLub - secretary and athlete (didn't do much on this, though. I just helped in founding it and I coulndt contribute much since then
+Student Ambassador from Indonesia
+Drum band - snare drum
+Boy Scout
+Singapore Youth Olympic Games = volunteer as team leader in Cultural and educational programs (ceP) promotion team
+Food distribution for the poor citizens around my school in singapore
+Pencak Silat (Indo-malay traditional martial arts)</p>

<p>Awards :</p>

<p>-International Merit Scholarship Recipient awarded by my school in singapore
-finalist National science olympiad in biology
-1st Winner in province level Biology olympiad (Senior high school)
-1st Winner in City level Biology olympiad (Senior high school)
-Finalist and awarded one of the best speaker in one of the debating championship held by one of the TV Station in my province in Indonesia
-Governor's award for excellent citizen and students
-The Big 8 (quarter finalist) Indonesian School Debating CHampionship (national level)
-2nd best speaker Province level debating championship
-5th best speaker Province level debating championship
-1st winner in Math and Science competition for students with special educations (province level)
-Finalist in Math and Science competition for students with special educations (national level)
-Finalist, Math olympiad held by the biggest university in our province
-finalist National science olympiad in biology
-1st Winner in province level Biology olympiad (Junior high school)
-3rd Winner in City level Biology olympiad (Junior high school)
-Awarded by the city's major as "talented student in the field of science" in my city's anniversary</p>

<p>hooks/unusual circumstances :
-I've moved to several schools and I viewed it as quite challenging
-The project/initiatives I've done with my Leo club. We put ssome boxes in spectacle shops around singapore to collect used glasses which then will be recycled and donated overseas. In thsi intitiatives we had some support from one of the polytechnics in singapore and one of the biggest chain of spectacles shops in singapore.
-I have witnessed the riots when I was in Indonesia and became a refugee.</p>

<p>Well, that's a glimpse about me and I am really sorry for my grammar. I'm not a good story teller/writer either;I'm sure you can see that hahahaha I just hope it's gonna cause a problem in making my essay.</p>

<p>Schools I'm gonna apply</p>

<p>Without FA </p>

<p>-UCLA
-UCSD
-UCB</p>

<p>With FA</p>

<p>-Harvard
-Amherst
-Williams
-Dartmouth
-Columbia
-uPenn
-Cornell
-NYUAD
-Oberlin
-colgate
-Middlebury
-Berea
-PSU</p>

<p>I'll really appreciate it if you can give me the probability to get into those schools. And, say that you were in my position and had to choose only 3 schools to apply from those w/out FA list, which schools u are gonna pick ?? I ask this cz applying to too many schools is just too expensive and being from a country with terrible exchange rate, it becomes really close to impossibility. :)</p>

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<p>bumps !
Anyone could chance me :frowning: ??</p>

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<p>You have good ECs, but you need to be sure to tie everything together when you submit your application. You really need to highlight your passion/s.</p>

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<p>Hi happy person !
thanks for your reply…
How can I tie everything in ? Resume ?</p>

<p>Also, could you tell me which schools are high reach, low reach, and match ???</p>

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<p>Harvard-high reach
-Amherst-mid reach
-Dartmouth-low reach
-Columbia-low reach
-uPenn-high match
-Cornell-low match
-colgate-safety
-PSU-safety</p>

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<p>Hey curious : thanks for your post ! it’s really encouraging…</p>

<p>Just one more question :
if safety = 99% of admission
then
low match = ? %
low reach = ? %</p>

<p>thanks dude !</p>

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<p>Colgate is far from a safety for an international seeking aid with this profile. It wouldn’t be safe for a fully pay American. The list above is dangerously untrue!</p>

<p>The 3 I’d choose would be Colgate, Oberlin and PSU.</p>

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<p>Hi waverly !
That’s a great information.</p>

<p>hmm… so even among those 3, there’s no safety at all ??</p>

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<p>bumps 10char…</p>

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<p>You’re a really strong applicant; you have to be as an international student. Decent test scores, but probably your weak point. </p>

<p>UC’s- should be an admit (I don’t know how much aid you would get)</p>

<p>-Harvard, Amherst, Williams= high reaches
-Dartmouth, UPenn, NYUAD= mid reaches
-Columbia (they accept alot of international students)=low reach
-Cornell, Middlebury= high match
-Oberlin, Colgate= match
-PSU= safety</p>

<p>Ivy admissions are tricky. Don’t be surprised if you get into one school, but not another very similar one.</p>

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<p>I read some f these and just sigh. Columbia low reach and Dartmouth/Penn mid reach? Where to start?</p>

<p>In the last two years Columbia has accepted a lower percentage than Dartmouth (by just a little) or Penn (by a lot). The OPs scores are below average for all 3, so by definition they would all be high reaches.</p>

<p>Please kids, please. Read the common data sets before posting rubbish!</p>

<p>Sorry patpat, I wish you all the best.</p>

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<p>I really don’t see you having much of a chance at any of the Ivies, your SAT isn’t high enough but being a international student may help and so does the refugee thing.</p>

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<p>waverly : thanks… Do you know where to get the admission rate for international students in these Unis ??</p>

<p>I find the admission rate for whole application pool quite misleading for international applicant.
Assuming that I’ll apply those 3 schools u have recommended, could you pick me an ivy in which I have the best chance compared to the others ??</p>

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<p>@waverly : Sorry I forgot to give you the back ground of the tupes of applicant coming from my country… Most of them would either be an Olympiads winner at the national or international level, or an International school students…</p>

<p>And there’re only few students applying to HYP+IVYs from Indonesia… last year… only 15 applying to princeton… for the LACs, I cant expect to see 0 applicant… seriously, we dont know so much about American Unis except the famous ones like HYPS UCs etc
For the SATs… you can’t expect a stellar scores from indonesian student…
Most of the Indonesian Ivy leaguers I’ve contacted only have 2000+ SAT score, with no EC, but just International Science Olympiads medals…
I don’t reach the international level Biology Olympiad, but I’m among the few (if not the only one) who won both National Biology Olympiad and Indonesian school debating championship… first is taken mostly by science stream students and the latter by the social stream students… so I’ve won both… :)</p>

<p>Yes, my SAT’s “out of the league” but please dont forget my A level : it’s equivalent of APs and it’s even far harder…</p>

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<p>my thoughts…don’t try to justify yourself to anyone on CC just go with your gut feeling and apply.
I really don’t have time to explain why I’m telling you this but in short, i’m in a very very similar situation; incredible ECs, decent, over 2000 but not stellar SATs, awesome A-levels…after speaking to well-informed individuals from ivy league ad-coms what they said was that they do endeavor to evaluate “you for you” they take your individual circumstances into consideration. soooooo NE T’INQUIETE PAS do what feels right to you!</p>

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<p>@lalachia : Merci ! Oui, peut-etre j m’inquiete bcp… :frowning: mais c’est ma natur…
But as I said, I’m not a good story teller/writer, so I’m afraid I can’t expect to demonstrate those individual circumstances in my essays…</p>

<p>But thanks for your advice ! Vous devez etre une/un etudiant(e) excellent(e) !</p>

<p>Hm… are you a singapore JC students ?? You seem to be well informed…</p>

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<p>no i’m not from singapore…not even from Asia lol but I am an international student though</p>

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<p>Hmm…
Lemme’ guess… pakistani ??</p>

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<p>Oops… not from Asia…
UK ??</p>

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<p>the only advice I have is to maybe get your SATs up a little bit! Other than that, you look pretty strong.</p>

<p>UCs: low - mid match
-Harvard, Amherst, Upenn, Dartmouth, Columbia: mid - high reach
-NYUAD: low reach
-Cornell: low - mid reach

  • Middlebury, Oberlin, Colgate: mid - high match
    -PSU: safety</p>