<p>don’t think so, this coming from a student from singapore</p>
<p>bump…do i need to improve on my ECs and stuff..or my grades?
any schools that match me?</p>
<p>i donno how u can IMPROVE ur ECs in such a short time.ur grades are fine for UCs (they do not require super high these days).but the problem is FA. According to what is happening, schools(especially public ones) need more money from international students.UCs may accept more intls but apparently without FA.</p>
<p>i understand..what about private UCs?
are my ECs fine for top schools like HYSM?</p>
<p>There is no such thing as a private UC.</p>
<p>HYPSM are going to be reaches for everyone, and more so for internationals. Your stats look fine, but nothing incredibly outstanding for HYPSM (I am talking about RSI, IMO, IPhO, unique stuff/combination of ECs and all that).</p>
<p>As a rule of thumb, take the overall admissions rate of top private universities and half that number to get the international admissions rate.</p>
<p>PolarNs wrote: “ur grades are fine for UCs (they do not require super high these days)…”</p>
<p>Don’t know where you got that. UCB and UCLA have median UCGPA of 4.2. UCSD around 4.0, UCSB/UCI/UCD around 3.8</p>
<p>The “these days” part is especially wrong. The required GPA to get into all the UCs goes up a little each year.</p>
<p>dude…i’m not from the states..so i don’t have the UC GPA…
my GPA is 4.15 (out of 4.33 maximum total)
Thats above A on all subjects.</p>
<p>Um…this is how it works…if you’re from out of state/in state/international EVERYONE gets a UC gpa calculated according to their rules. So everyone gets a UC gpa who’s applying to the UC’s. </p>
<p>That means weighted courses are given extra points for 8 semesters only.</p>
<p>Information on applying to UCs as an international applicant: [University</a> of California - Admissions](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/intl/intl_apply.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/intl/intl_apply.html) </p>
<p>Please be aware that while you are clearly an excellent student and may be accepted by a UC, you will not likely receive any financial aid. In fact, before being granted a student visa to attend, you will have to prove you can pay for all tuition and expenses of approx. $45,000/year. See this site for more details: [University</a> of California - Admissions](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/intl/intl_finance.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/intl/intl_finance.html)</p>
<p>Try the International student forum <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/</a> to find universities in the US that offer scholarships and aid to international students. The UCs are not generally considered to be in that group.</p>
<p>Lehigh provides scholarships for international students dun they?</p>
<p>you definitely need to get ur SAT up for HYPMS… unless you have some extraordinary achievements</p>
<p>anyone else???/</p>
<p>nothing!
i dont have anything to say!</p>
<p>bumpp…comments?</p>
<p>Unlimited,</p>
<p>A 2100 SAT is essentially the minimum to get into a lower Ivy league school (a school like Cornell).</p>
<p>Quick tutorial here:</p>
<p>Top schools in the US:
Ivies (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Dartmouth, Penn, Brown, and Cornell), MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Franklin Olin, Coopers Union, Amherst, Williams</p>
<p>Next level:
Northwestern, Vanderbilt, John Hopkins, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Duke, Emory, Rice, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, Washington University at St. Louis, Virginia, Tufts, Chicago, North Carolina, Boston College, USC (Southern California), Carnegie Mellon, Middlebury, Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Wellesley, Barnard, and Reed (and maybe one or two others I left out).</p>
<p>Only the schools in the first list offer large financial aid to internationals (essentially almost free at all schools except for MIT, Stanford, and Caltech, where you will have to pay big bucks). The schools in the second level list offer some aid, but it is very limited and will be even more limited for internationals, since they know you may not repay once you leave the country-so they won’t give you much in the way of loans.</p>
<p>The other thing you need to know is that these schools (all of them, not just the first list) usually have a class of students that is made up of no more than 10% internationals. This means that a school like Yale, for example, which has a total of 5,000 students and admits about 1800 (in order to get 1,200 who will actually attend) will usually admit no more than 180 international students at the most. This means that they will admit maybe 2 to 3 students from Singapore at the most.</p>
<p>How difficult is it to get into a school like Yale? Well, over 25% of the students they admitted last year had SAT scores that were 790 or higher in Critical Reading, 790 or higher in Math, and 790 or higher in Writing. Since the internationals need to be near the top of the class, this means that you would need at least a 750 in each one of those to have a chance (or, in other words, a SAT score of 2250 +). Fortunately, not every school is that difficult, but you see my point.</p>
<p>I think you should try for the lower Ivies (Cornell, Brown, or Penn) where they would pay your tuition if you were admitted, as well as some of the schools in the second list I gave above if you can afford the tuition costs–or if you think you can get a job while here to make enough to pay most of the costs. Keep in mind that most of these schools, because they are the best ones here, are also the most expensive ones. Sorry, but that’s just the way life is.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>@Calcruzer: Getting into Penn and Cornell with FA is extremely near-impossible in Singapore. That’s because all those schools -know- the prevalence of government-awarded scholarships. Almost 100 Singapore students are admitted to Cornell and UMAA each year, and I bet near all of them are not given FA. Cornell, especially, is known for its stinginess overall and it doesn’t help how there are so many fully-funded scholarship recipients. Singaporeans are extremely ORM at Cornell.</p>
<p>@OP: Are you at an international school? I’m confused - your class is 246, that’s atypical for JCs. Is your nationality Singaporean?</p>
<p>Reject from all UCs with Financial Aid. Your stats aren’t impressive; there’s tons of other international students with better stats AND fully-funded.</p>
<p>@fiona…yes it is an international school. I just study in singapore. but my nationality is vietnamese. thanks</p>
<p>@fiona oh really? reject from all UCs with financial. then i wonder why my sis and friends got into the second list UCs with 3/4 financial aid when they have lower SAT scores and weaker ECs. </p>
<p>@fiona Don’t try to talk non sense here. If you are here just to trash talk, rather do it somewhere else. I havent done any thing to you.</p>
<p>Much as it may seem counter-intuitive to you, being Vietnamese gives you a great advantage. </p>
<p>Your thread title said top UCs. Go to the lower UCs then. What’s the purpose of chances for top UCs when you evidently will settle?</p>
<p>I agree with Fiona, it would be impossible to get into possibly the top 6 UC’s with FA. There are much better qualified in-state residents who need it more.</p>