<p>^ Yep. I suspect you might end up getting more FA if you are applying to some of the privates (esp below the level of Ivy+2). The UC system is perennially short of money and they have to take California residents who might need aid into consideration first (since the California taxpayers funds the UC system).</p>
<p>fiona,</p>
<p>Cornell only admits about 17% of their students from other countries and US possessions (like Puerto Rico and Guam). This means that they admit fewer than 500 undergraduate students in this category. While it is not impossible, I find it extremely unlikely that 100 of these students are solely from Singapore (since we still have to allow for students from Great Britain, Australia, China, France, Germany, Spain, the Scandinavian countries, the Middle East, India, Malaysia, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, South America and the rest).</p>
<p>I do agree with your comments on FA at these colleges and at the UCs, though.</p>
<p>P.S. I also have no idea what college UMAA is?</p>
<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.rjc.edu.sg/USapps/Colleges/rjcrecord.asp]USapps[/url”>http://www.rjc.edu.sg/USapps/Colleges/rjcrecord.asp]USapps[/url</a>]
2005 - 94; 2004 - 78; 2003 - 75; 2001 - 67</p>
<p>This is the statistics for one high school in Singapore, which by some accounts is the best, but there are others which feed to Cornell too. So the total number of Singaporeans admitted would exceed the numbers I quoted from that High School.</p>
<p>Reason: Most Singapore students take up a government scholarship, so they pay full freight. Plus, the A levels syllabus here is pretty rigorous, so the students are academically up-to-standard. Plus, we’re internationals, increasing the count of ‘minorities + internationals’ for marketing. </p>
<p>Academically qualified + Full-pay + Boost Cornell diversity = Cornell happy</p>
<p>Note: I’d be willing to bet the yield for Singapore applicants is low, though. Cornell is pretty much the safety for people applying to HYPSMC. So, admitted no >> enrolled numbers [your numbers seem like enrolled stats]</p>
<p>UMAA = University of Michigan Ann Abor</p>
<p>fiona,</p>
<p>First of all, I don’t think we are disagreeing about that much. I don’t think the number is 100, but something slightly less (like 60 to 70 or so) and you think 100 or more is the more likely number. </p>
<p>Looking at your link above, at first I thought that this was the number of people applying from this one school, but after reading through the materials, I realized that this is a service/class the school is offering for all Singapore students. So, in other words this is a “clearing house” for applications to US schools–and thus represents multiple students in Singapore who go to multiple schools.</p>
<p>First of all, I notice these numbers include both waitlisted and deferred admit students, not just regular admits only (see the footnotes at the bottom). </p>
<p>If you are trying to say that the numbers come just from students attending the junior college in Singapore, not from other high schools and colleges, then I doubt the accuracy of the numbers–sorry. </p>
<p>Look at what this place is saying–average admit ratio to Cornell (59% of applicants–94 students–from the one school, despite the fact that Cornell tends to take only the top 5% to 7% from any school anywhere); average admit ratio to Michigan (98% from one school, 111 out of 113 applications???–sorry, but I don’t believe this one for even one second). Unless the yield for Singapore to the US is about 15% or less, these numbers make no sense at all. </p>
<p>However, if this represents the students receiving help and applying through this “clearing house” from various schools all over Singapore, then yes, I would believe it. It says that about 76 students (once you remove waitlisted students) were admitted to Cornell in 2005 from (all of) Singapore. And this 76 includes those that got deferred admission. That seems like a reasonable number.</p>
<p>And no, my numbers were for admits, not for enrolled students–Cornell only admits 500 international and US possession students–the average enrolls would only be about 60% of this number to get to the 17% of enrollees total.</p>
<p>Not sure if you know this - Singapore JC = 11th and 12th grade high school, not 2-year comm colleges. Most top Singaporean students head to JCs, so I hope you don’t think the JC is like some tiny CC.</p>
<p>I’m unsure about the numbers. Now that you mention it, the website implies they’re from all schools with “Where possible, the Total Admits for Singapore reflect only JC students”. However, the heading of “RJC JC2 2003, to enter college in 2004” would then be misleading. </p>
<p>The class size for this JC (Raffles JC) is about 1000. This comprises the top 2% of all Singaporeans born in that year [or about 10% of those who will eventually head to college]. So, having 119 applicants to UMAA is -not- out of the question.</p>
<p>I do believe the admit rate for Cornell could be 59%. First off, the applicant pool is self-selecting. Those students who are looking to go abroad are those who are competitive for the top schools HYPSMC already, or are wanting to go to Cornell. That’s because the scholarships offered by the government are limited, and only top students will stand a chance. Not many un-admittable students would apply, because of lack of funding. Second, Cornell lurves Singapore students, for the reasons I highlighted above. </p>
<p>FYI - This is not a clearinghouse, just a useful website put up by the JC.</p>
<p>Calcruzer: believe it or not, these figures come from ONE single school in singapore</p>
<p>bump\ please help me</p>