<p>VADAD Glad to hear life is better for you!</p>
<p>Hope my advice I pm’d you was helpful! My best to your daughter!</p>
<p>muckdogs07, that Vanderbilt stat looks crazy compared to Virginia’s mean SAT of 1395 on CR and Math.</p>
<p>When I told my daughter this stat, she was seriously regretting not applying to Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>I just want to say something about the people on this website. There are some incredible people on it, and I mean that in a good way. While I have been venting my frustrations sometimes almost admittedly in a hysterical way, I’ve had a great number of people send me both supportive comments and also helpful information. And there has also been lots of supportive comments and helpful information in this thread too.</p>
<p>I don’t think I missed thanking anyone who sent me a PM, but let me say it again…Thank you.</p>
<p>VADAD1, you also have done a service for both parents and students here. You have confirmed that, in today’s competitive environment, only the most extraordinary student (and one without financial need) can get away with applying only to MIT, Wellesley, Smith, Duke, and U-Va.</p>
<p>VaDad: If your daughter still wants UVa after May 1, there is still hope. UVa accepts a significant number of transfers each year from students who have done very well at other Va. public universities and community colleges. In comparison, most selective universities don’t take many transfers.</p>
<p>Novaparent…yes, that is exactly the lesson. I have learned a lot in the process, and I’m not done learning, but I hate that it was at my daughter’s expense.</p>
<p>I posted the story in the thread about schools in another forum in the hopes that somebody might read it, and avoid the same mistake we made.</p>
<p>Charlie, thanks for those words of support. I doubt that my daughter would get pulled off the wait list. Yesterday her counselor called to talk to them and they didn’t even have to ask the counselor which student he was asking about. LOL I don’t think that is a good thing.</p>
<p>But…ya never know.</p>
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<p>Sorry, but that is incredibly wrong. I could only find the stats from 2009, but there were only 1192 800/800s in the entire country. </p>
<p>Given that some of the scores are the same kids taking a test the 2nd time, I would bet UVA couldn’t fill an entire class with just kids scoring 1500 combined, since there are about 16k scores like that in the country and many of those kids are HPYSM applicants or repeats of the same kid.</p>
<p>TV4caster, you make a good point. Whether it should count for much or shouldn’t count for much, there are a lot less students scoring 2300+ on the SAT than what people think.</p>
<p>Last year there were 7,219 kids that did so in the entire country. I doubt that even 20% of those kids are are applying to Virginia, and of those less than 1500 kids, how many would pick UVA with multiple acceptances?</p>
<p>So yeah…I don’t think UVA, or almost any school outside HPYSM is capable of enrolling a class that has a majority of kids with 2300+.</p>
<p>It should be added that there are tons of international students applying to UVa with sky-high SAT scores.</p>
<p>As noted above, most selective universities first screen students for whether they have proven they could succeed at a demanding college (based upon a blend of GPA, high school curriculum and test scores). Then they look at the other factors to decide which of those highly qualified students should be offered admission. Once a student achieves above a certain score, a 50 to 100 point difference in SAT scores among competing applicants is not that important.</p>
<p>I misspoke earlier. Those stats were for all SAT scores, including international, not just US</p>
<p>VADAD1, where was your daughter’s high school counseler when she needed her? Wasn’t she advised to apply to a safety school?</p>
<p>He thought she was safe with the schools that she applied to. So did I. According to the figures on Parchment.com, she was something like 2500 to 1 to get rejected at all 5 schools.</p>
<p>However, Parchment doesn’t ask you if you are going to get financial aid…and obviously they were wrong about this one.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure UVa’s admissions and financial issues are handled separately,VADAD1, so not sure what financial aid has to do with it.</p>
<p>Well that’s not the case with Smith College…</p>
<p>and…just going to be honest here…not a rip on UVA…I don’t think any schools in the nation are truly need blind except for maybe Harvard.</p>
<p>Thank you novaparent that has been my issue with this one. </p>
<p>VADAD I know you stated he has been doing his job for 20 years but if he is not connected to what is going on in college admissions TODAY then there is a real problem. He should have instructed her better IMHO. College admissions has changed dramatically in even the last few years. Does he visit colleges, meet with reps? I don’t know too many guidance/school/college counselors that would have allowed her to only have those schools. I know it is a moot point but I feel bad for your daughter as well as for other students that this may happen to.</p>
<p>I wonder how accurate the results from Parchment can be. The admission process is incredibly complicated. Students records are evaluated by human beings. How can a computer or piece of software produce accurate prediction regarding which colleges a student can get into?</p>
<p>I think UVa is great with aid! My $400 deposit was waived and I’m expecting great aid.</p>
<p>Woosah, my daughter’s a pretty unique case for him I think. That school never has people score 2300+ on the SAT, and I think he thought it would carry more weight than it did. Frankly, the last time a student had a score like that, it probably did carry a lot more weight.</p>
<p>Anybody who would have looked at the admissions profile for Smith would have thought my daughter was safe there I think.</p>
<p>Besides man, I am poor man, I couldn’t afford to keep shelling out 60-75$ for all those applications lol.</p>
<p>I’m not going to blame the counselor, he is a good guy who made a miscalculation. As did I.</p>
<p>wavelet, obviously they make some serious errors. I was naive in the process. I didn’t realize what a moving target college admissions were.</p>
<p>To me, if my daughters GPA was way above the 25%, and her class rank was 2% and her SAT score was 400 points higher than the mean for an accepted student, I thought that school looked pretty safe.</p>
<p>It was a mistake.</p>