<p>Indoor track: freshmen/junior year
Cross country: Freshmen/sophomore year
Outdoor track: Freshmen/sophomore year
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Look at your activities, and how scattered they are in terms of your devotion.</p>
<p>They are scattered? I thought by doing only trakc that would not be scattered?</p>
<p>BTW facebook, here is where I got the information that my ACT score is within the 50% at every ivy: [Ivy</a> League ACT Scores - Compare ACT Scores for Ivy League Schools](<a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/theact/a/act_side_x_side.htm]Ivy”>Ivy League ACT Score Comparison for Admission)
TYVM Sir</p>
<p>^That data stretches across 5 or so points so it’s hard to say if a 33 is even above the median score. </p>
<p>In any case, I agree with facebook; a 33 translates to about a 2190, which is okay for Tier 1.5 schools like UVA, but certainly will not cut it for the Ivies and their equivalents. I’ve seen a few of your posts before and it’s great and all that you worked hard, but for admissions to these very selective schools a 33 is, unfortunately, not very impressive at all.</p>
<p>I’m still a little shocked on how a 33 isn’t good for Ivys? 10k people get a 33 in the WORLD. I mean unless that site is lying and it says that a 33 is 75% at Cornell I’m lost. I want to go to UVA anyways so I’m still in still good hope.</p>
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<p>I don’t know where you are getting this statistic from, but I doubt that it’s true.</p>
<p>Besides, you need to understand that nobody is saying that a 33 is going to greatly reduce your chances at an Ivy League school; a 33 is a good score, but just for these kinds of schools it will definitely not be raising any eyebrows.</p>
<p>Ok. 99% means 1.4mil divided by 100 x 1. That is how you get the 1% of people who have gotten between a 33 and 36. I know you guys are trying to help but facing reality really really sucks.</p>
<p>I just read your post billabong. You know what your talking about. I agree that it will not raise eyebrows for sure. I mean a 33 is **** compared to a 36. I’m just saying that a 33 will not get me rejected from an ivy.</p>
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<p>No. If a 33 is the 99th percentile, it means that 99% of all test takes are at or under this score. This means that 1% of all test takes have scored higher than a 33.</p>
<p>I think its going to be how spoiled i was before I worked. I was a spoiled little *****. I’ll admit it. I was a dick to my parents and didn’t work at school. My boss is an increadible character. He’s taught me so so much about how to get ahead. The guy is worth 6mil+ and I know he owns 8 propertys. I come from a very wealthy town and before work I was caught up in the whole “keep up with the jones” I wanted the best of everythign just to impress others. Through work I’ve found what is important in life and that showing off means nothing. My boss dresses regularly and dosent flaunt his cash atall but he is richer than 99% of the people I know.</p>
<p>BTW what is an ogive?</p>
<p>ECs are weak. Grades are good but B+s wont cut it for a bunch of these schools
UVA (dream school since I was 5): Low reach/High Target
UPenn ----> ED to Huntsman program/wharton High Reach
Georgetown Low Reach
UNC Target
Dartmouth Reach
Princeton High Reach
------------- that ends the list of schools I’d really like to attend but here are some others
JHU Reach
UC Berkley Reach
University of Florida (instate) Low Target/Safety
Florida State Safety
U Chicago Low Reach/High Target
Emory High Target
Vandy Target
Notre Dame High Target
Rice DUNNO
Dartmouth Reach
Boston College Safety</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1005943-chance-senior-will-chance-back.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1005943-chance-senior-will-chance-back.html</a></p>
<p>Facebook, <strong><em>? tirade? I was awnsering your *</em></strong>ing question. You asked what I was giong to write in my essay and I let you know? <strong><em>? alright whatever… *</em></strong> these chance threads. Half the people on this ****ing site just give bad chances so the kids don’t apply and they have a higher shot.</p>
<p>^ I wish this was facebook so I could like this. I agree with the OP about his scores, they will not get him rejected however they will not raise eyebrows.</p>
<p>26577 people scored a 33 or above last year in the world and we should keep in mind that many of those people were not seniors and/or are not applying to the same colleges as the OP. 33 is not too low for any school besides perhaps MIT/Stanford/Harvard/Princeton/Yale.</p>
<p>I think that if the essay is top notch and recs are excellent he will have a good shot a quite a few of these schools.</p>
<p>Btw I have seen people get into Stanford and MIT with 2030 and 2050’s (unhooked but with great EC’s) so anything is possible.</p>
<p>TY IvyMadness… I knew I wasn’t that screwed…</p>
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<p>Whenever someone makes a chance thread and then specifically chooses to disagree with the advice that they receive the result is a conclusion similar to yours. If all you are going to do is whine then I don’t really understand why you posted in the first place.</p>
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<p>Penn’s Huntsman Program’s selectivity is more or less on par with these schools. </p>
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<p>Anecdotal advice like this is exactly what this forum does not need. You can’t analyze a portion of someone’s application in a vacuum; the reason why these people have gotten accepted is probably because their applications were holistically good (pretty much what you said). This does not really apply to the OP’s case.</p>
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<p>I don’t think that anyone in this thread was arguing that you were screwed. You just need to be more realistic for some of the schools on your list. There’s a pretty big disparity between UVA and Penn.</p>
<p>Ohh I know billabong. I would give my self 10% chance MAX at any of those ivys/elite schools I ranked</p>
<p>Oh yeah I missed Penn thats most likely a no but I don’t get why people are saying that he doesn’t have that good of a shot at a place like UVA. </p>
<p>Also anecdotal evidence helps in that it puts this whole process in perspective. You are not an adcom, you can’t categorically reject people. The most you can do is say something like “slim chance”. </p>
<p>Also, I must reiterate, a 33 is not a bad score for the MAJORITY of schools on his list such as UVA.</p>
<p>Agreed. I know it’s not good for any Ivy but atleat I probably won’t be rejected because of it.</p>
<p>Look I’m gonna agree with both billabong/facebook and OP on this one. </p>
<p>I’m agreeing with billabong/facebook in saying that your ECs are lacking. Of course the job experience shows dedication, but I wouldn’t go as far as calling it leadership because you’re not actually LEADING anything, you’re just helping people out. I’ll say that you’re “people skills” are much higher than majority of applicants, but you don’t have STRUCTURED leadership. Also I have to disagree with the posters saying the Bs in the OPs fresh/soph year are hurting him; it’s not the Bs…it’s the lack of AP classes. There are many students, including myself, that have taken 10+ APs by graduation. Of course colleges base your class rigor compared to other students in your school, but this distinct lack of APs will not translate well.</p>
<p>This is where I agree with the OP. How is a 33 not going to “cut it” for Ivies? Are y’all seriously on crack? Just because a 33 “translates” to a 2190 doesn’t mean ****. The curves on the ACT are ridiculous…a 33 loosely means that someone missed 3 questions on every section on the test, which is VERY impressive. The thing I realize most about the students on CC is that they’re so number hungry; honestly, after a certain score, colleges want to see what you’ve done outside of school. Of course a 35 or 36 is impressive, but think about it…would you rather have a student who has a 33 and is active in school/community or a student who has a 36 who is barely active anywhere except in front of books? </p>
<p>With all that being said, I think you have a decent chance at UVA OOS. If you were instate, I’d say you’re in, but since you’re OOS, you’re chances obviously drop. I do think it’s doable but not a done deal by any means.</p>
<p>Could you chance back please?
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1004999-duke-ed-will-chance-back.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1004999-duke-ed-will-chance-back.html</a></p>
<p>Thank you for the long dedicated post golfer. I guess I gotta really work on my EC’s. Thank GOD I will be joining volunteer firefigthing before my first app is in 
just in time if you catch my drift.</p>
<p>Facebook,
You have got to be one of the most officious little know-it-all posters I have ever read on CC (and that is saying a LOT). “No adcom will spend 10+ minutes on your app”-- Please share the source of your insight. And also explain why you apparently get off on being so snide and nasty.</p>
<p>UVA or Bust-- go for it. My dd got into UVA OOS a couple of years ago and her ACT was 31 (and her GPA was 3.75). I think your work experience is valuable-- and it is real-- more so than a lot of the school club activities with which a lot of kids pad their resumes. (And another plus is that it will help you when you eventually graduate-- my niece recently graduated from a large public university and landed a great job-- a real plum in this economy-- and her new company told her that her work experience in high school and college was the most important factor in their decision to hire her.)
Good luck!</p>