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<p>would you be able to tell me where a 3.85 gpa and 1770 sat stand on the index?</p>

<p>WAIT... how does this index work???? WHat is it out of? Where does it put different schools? Where is the UW line? Ok, could you calc me really quickly? I have a 2300 and a 3.8ish GPA. Under the index system, what do I get? Thank you :D</p>

<p>The UW has adopted a holistic approach to their admissions system and as such, reviews all prospective applicants individually. The index system is no longer used. </p>

<p>That being said, I don't think a 3.8 GPA and 2300 SAT has much to worry about.</p>

<p>Last year under the old system the bear was 84. This got her in the Honors program with great essays but no merit money. Inaina my guess is you would be 87. This would give you a good shot at Honors and merit money if you are instate. Ashley0389 my guess is about a 68. In 2005 you would have just missed the automatic admit number of 70. But you would have a very high probabilty of admissions. A similar probability to the one you have now. </p>

<p>The old index was from 0 to 99. 90's are rare, think 1420/1600+ and a 4.0 gpa, 1520/1600 and a 3.9 gpa or a 3.8 and a 1600. </p>

<p>Does the admissions office use it to make admissions decisons in general no. I've seen nothing in the regulations that have revoked 28 as slowest number eligible for admission to Washington. A 3.0 student would average around 500 on all sections of the SAT to get a 28. With these numbers your chances aren't good no matter what the system is. The pool is too strong. </p>

<p>My personal opinion is just like the Ivies an index is still used. It is used for work flow not actual decisions and to skim the bottom off. The left outside defender on my daughter's high school soccer team was a one standard deviation kid at Colombia. How did they give her an athletic preference without knowing everyones index? And people with index numbers 90 or better match what I have been told is the merit money cutoffs.</p>

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<p>You can see the 2005 admissions index table at <a href="http://www.hecb.wa.gov/Research/issues/admissions/AITables-05.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hecb.wa.gov/Research/issues/admissions/AITables-05.pdf&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p>

<p>I think this is when "other factors" kick in. WashDadJr also had an 800 SAT II in Physics and a 770 Math SAT II (plus 5s on three out of three AP tests as a Junior). Combined with his selection of engineering for a major, he probably was accepted as "math/science nerd who doesn't study as hard on humanities." His admissions index is really 54 in the 2005 table. I rounded down on his GPA.</p>

<p>So, how low below 70 do they usually accept? I think I am in the 57/58 range and I am still waiting for my letter.</p>

<p>parentofbear: thanx so much! I always wondered about that... except I never remembered to look it up... This is insane, so by that system, they actually do place more weight upon the GPA than they do on the SAT score... Hmmm... btw, I just got accepted into the Honors Program a few days ago... but no hint of merit money... Doest that come later? Should I designate my National Merit to UW then? Because it doesn't look like my chances of getting an overall merit thing would be big with a 87 when there are so many 4.0 merit people...? Opinions?</p>

<p>WashDad of course they are going to admit someone with a 1510/1600 SAT. If you have calculus you have an 80% chance of graduating in four years. And Jr has no chance of needing remedial math so he saves them money as well. But he was playing with fire. In the current freshman class there are just 102 kids with GPAs less than 3.00. A solid B average looks like a hard floor to me.</p>

<p>Burmab Last year they got 16,000 applications and admitted 11,000. About 5,550 enrolled depending on how you count part timers. They go down a long ways.</p>

<p>Inaina
The two most important admission factors are academic record and rigor of your classes. The SAT is only important. Washington admissions is not insane at all. Consider last year about 2,200 kids in Washington had 4.00 or very close (97-100). Their median Math/CR SAT was 1220. So only 1,100 are left. Most of those have scores less than 1350/1600 so the number with great scores is very small. And this is the entire state. This should give you a shot a merit money but remember the main reason for merit money is to get you to enroll and help the school. They have competitors for top students and they know it. If I remember right financial aid comes later. PM me on the National Merit stuff.</p>

<p>When I advise kids on Washington I use the old index, how good your high school has been (grade fade) and SAT scores. I can generally get a decent picture of someones chances with these. </p>

<p>I hope this helps.</p>

<p>Steve</p>

<p>Are you saying that the median for 4.0's was 1220? If you are that seems too low. A 4.0 student should be able to easily surpass 1220. The 6 of us at my school each had at least a 1360.</p>

<p>On the college board website for Washington state. Number of students with 97 to 100 is 2,235. These are my 4.00 students. Their median SAT scores are 606, 620 and 596. </p>

<p>The next group dowm is 569, 583 and 558. This data should not suprise you. the numbers of kids with at least one score over 700 is very small. </p>

<p>You must go to a good high school. At Washougal HS my favorite whipping boy all a 4.00 would get you is this. You would be voteds most likely to stay off probation at the U. That grade fade thing again.</p>

<p>On the bright side UW is accepting more transfer students so if your friend does well at the CC then getting in will less of a longshot.</p>

<p>Thanks... maybe I'll tell her that. Are there any classes that she should take to help her prepare for transfering into UW in her sophmore year? Can someone tell me something about the transfer process? Thank you so much!</p>

<p>Wait... I thought on the news UW and other washington colleges are beginning to be picky and limited on transfer students... Can someone verify this?</p>

<p>You might be right about less transfer students I think I just got it mixed up, but I do remember the story in the paper.</p>

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<p>Hard fact: there is a quota for some community colleges in Washington at the U Dub. In other words, the UW is obligated to accept up to a fixed number of transfers from certain CCs. There was a big story in the Seattle Times March 11 saying that the UW was essentially trying to worm out of these agreements, but could not get around legislation on the subject. Here is a link to the article, and a clip of the lead:</p>

<p><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/education/2003612328_transfers11m0.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/education/2003612328_transfers11m0.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"The number of community-college students applying to transfer to the University of Washington has dried up so dramatically in recent years that the UW may seek changes to its 13-year-old quota agreement with the colleges.</p>

<p>"But the community colleges aren't likely to accept any changes without a fight."</p>

<p>So I'm thinking it will get a lot harder in a couple years to transfer, but if you're trying to transfer now, it might be a bit easier than usual. If I remember correctly, they're accepting 3/4 of the transfer applicants instead of 1/2?</p>

<p>Well, if my friend dosen't get in, she's going to try to transfer next year... is she going to make it?</p>

<p>She might have been accepted if she was a genius or scored perfect on all the standardized test scores. I know there's this one student at UW and she never took any of the standardized tests and she still got in. I think she was working on her master's (or something) either in her freshman or sophomore year.</p>