Chances at Columbia RD

<p>Thanks, CC! :)
Recc & Essays very good
Columbia RD:</p>

<p>GPA
9-12 UW:3.67 W:3.76
10-12 UW:3.94 W:4.01
Stupid School Weighting
Huge Upward Trend 3.196(9 only)->3.792(10 only)->4.166(11 only)->4.229(12 only)</p>

<p>Rank
8%</p>

<p>SAT
2350(800M/770R/780W)</p>

<p>SAT II
800 Math IIC, 800 Physics, 770 US History</p>

<p>AP - 10 Total, 5 Junior 5 Senior
4/4 5's</p>

<p>PSAT
230(NMSF)</p>

<p>National Awards:
Tournament of Champions(LD Debate, top 50)
NFL Nationals(LD Debate, top 30)
USAMO/AIME/AMC12</p>

<p>Awards
Tennis State Awards
AP Scholar with Distinction
Honor Roll 10-12</p>

<p>Summers
Stanford Debate Camp
TASP</p>

<p>ECs
President Mu Alpha Theta 12
Vice President Speech and Debate 10 11 12
Treasurer Community Service Club 11 12
Member Philosophy Club 11 12
Member NHS 10 11 12
Member Tennis Team 11 12</p>

<p>okay chance</p>

<p>i think u have a fair shot</p>

<p>this is very subjective and many ppl might argue otherwise, but ur ec's don't seem all that different from hundreds of others</p>

<p>i heard somewhere that usamo counts as a hook. any truth in that?</p>

<p>TASP+USAMO is pretty insane.</p>

<p>actually those ECs are very strong...TOC top 50 for debate is impressive</p>

<p>100% you're getting in unless you're lying about these accomplishments or you're a convicted felon.</p>

<p>your gpa isnt very good, but you have taken 10 ap classes so you are obviously challenging yourself. ur sat and ecs are both exceptional. i dont think gpa is THAT important. i have high gpa and low-medium sat 1s (you know what fine, they are just low for columbia) and i was deferred. i wish i had those scores. i think ull get in. all u have to do now is bite ur nails till march/april/whatever.</p>

<p>What are TASP and USAMO?</p>

<p>columbia loves debaters (though not as much as harvard does). policy > LD, but still, TOC is good stuff (as is USAMO obviously). what's the qual system for that like?</p>

<p>If your essay was decent you stand a great shot.</p>

<p>Denzera, when you say policy > than LD are you talking about this from a colleges perspective or your own biased viewpoint? :)</p>

<p>hm. you say columbia likes debaters? what about model united nations?</p>

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Denzera, when you say policy > than LD are you talking about this from a colleges perspective or your own biased viewpoint?

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just my own biased viewpoint, but i imagine it has a little traction elsewhere. policy debate requires much more research, it has more spreading and requires faster thinking on a wider range of subjects, it has more speeches in a round, two-person teams rather than solo, and more hard-hitting, reality-driven resolutions each year. the people who are nationally serious about policy get into HYP at rates that would astound you. I don't think i can say the same for LD, which was seemingly sneered at (although at least a dozen kids at my high school, Lexington HS in MA, did LD there, compared to a 40-strong policy team).</p>

<p>Now, many schools may not have a very strong, nationally competitive policy program. I think strong commitment and national recognition in LD is way more intellectual passion, drive, and success than most applicants to a Columbia would show. Hell, the only debate team worth anything at columbia is the parliamentary team, and they're practically a drinking team with a debate problem. I'm quite confident that an invite to TOCs in LD and a national ranking is pretty freaking special and will be viewed as such.</p>

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Hell, the only debate team worth anything at columbia is the parliamentary team, and they're practically a drinking team with a debate problem.

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<p>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA.....so true</p>

<p>wooooooooooooooooooooow.. USAMO TOC????? wow, those are stats i could dream for.. you have a great shot</p>

<p>so basically debate teams dont really exist at columbia then??</p>

<p>oh no, they DO exist, the parliamentary team is even pretty good, but a lot of the clubs at columbia could be described as "a drinking club with a ____ problem"</p>

<p>very good shot</p>

<p>Skraylor - so basically, Columbia is.... just like every college? :)</p>

<p>Teams wax and wane in their seriousness, it depends on the captains any given year. The ultimate frisbee team used to be a pot team with a frisbee problem, and they got serious my freshman and sophomore year and contended for nationals.</p>

<p>denz - i thought that was basically understood?</p>

<p>and btw, the ult. frisbee team is now just a drinking team with a pot problem and a habit of playing frisbee</p>