Chances at M&T?

<p>I am thinking about applying to the Jerome Fisher Program at Upenn. Here are my stats:</p>

<p>Chinese Male
Non-competitive public school in Washington
SAT: 2170 <a href=“1%20sitting”>760M, 670CR, 740W</a>, 2210 <a href=“highest”>800M</a>
SAT II: 750 Math IIC, 740 Physics, 790 Math IC, taking biology soon
PSAT: 64 CR, 67 WR, 76 M</p>

<p>3.979 UW GPA
Rank 1/264
5 on AP Calculus AB
4 on AP Physics B</p>

<p>Taking AP Stats, AP Spanish, AP Biology next year
Have taken full load of honors/AP school offers</p>

<p>Work:
Interned at Microsoft in Global Accounts (sales/marketing) 40hrs/10wks during summer
Web developer for non-profit teen job search site
Renton Technical College Newsletter layout design</p>

<p>EC:
President of Senior Class
Regional VP of DECA
VP, Treasurer, Historian of Multicultural Student Association
National Honor Society
Link Crew
Renton Youth Council
Tutored GED students at Renton Technical College one summer
Volunteered at Renton Technical College foundation one summer
Won national 7up web campaign development contest</p>

<p>I am wondering what my chances are at UPenn Jerome Fisher. I am very interested in their business/technology disciplines, and I am wondering how much my Microsoft internship will help me.</p>

<p>Hey, I'm M&T :) Chinese...I applied from WA state too!</p>

<p>Cursory glance says your stats ok (your SAT is a little soft for M&T, but everything else looks great - e.g. sat2s)</p>

<p>If you're a non-english first language, it'll help with your soft CR/W scores.</p>

<p>hey aranaxon do you know canh trinh, steve blum, puja, maggie chen, or simeon McMillan? they're M&T as well (I was at the first M&TSI and they were my awesome rtas)</p>

<p>aranaxon, how much do you think getting selected to the 45 person MTSI camp will help a lot when I apply to M&T (i had great grades there)? - I can write a lot about the program, campus, school, and philly in my essays because I was there for 3 weeks</p>

<p>hah also dhruv singh</p>

<p>Tidal822, I did M&TSI too... </p>

<p>Rob D, "Interned at Microsoft in Global Accounts (sales/marketing) 40hrs/10wks during summer," that's going to help you, I think, a lot...
But did you know that with M&T, you can transfer in when you're in college?</p>

<p>chen and mcmillan are my year, i've met them. blum i think is an 07. I'm sure they're all pretty cool. I was actually considering being an RTA myself, but ended up interning instead.</p>

<p>Technically, M&TSI is a money-making scheme by Wharton (sorry), because its not <em>exclusive</em> (i.e. if you have the money to go... I think they let you in) but I think it'll give you some slight preferences since you've expressed serious interst in the program, but certainly not an auto-admit.</p>

<p>Re Zhang: Transferring into M&T from the college is probably a mistake.. You'll be one year behind in both wharton and engineering, and with the ridiculous amount of credit requirements, you will be hard pressed to graduate in 4 or even 4.5 years.</p>

<p>hm the rtas said that m and t was the most selective program at penn this summer.. (more than stuff like precollege and LBW)</p>

<p>they said like 250-300something applied for something like 40 spots</p>

<p>zhang (who are you) - wasnt mtsi known as the most selective one there</p>

<p>Thanks for the info on transfer, aranaxon...</p>

<p>Tidal822, this is Amy, who are you? And I doubt there were that many applicants, because it's its first year. And I don't think it was as selecteive as LBW.</p>

<p>As to M&TSI helping with admission, I don't think it helps THAT much... They will definitely take it as a bonus, but it's definitely not a for sure thing. I'm not applying for M&T, so I'm not sure exactly. M&TSI was just an experience for me, not really an admission grabber.</p>

<p>strange, the guy that posted his chances here <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=72308&highlight=jerome+fisher%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=72308&highlight=jerome+fisher&lt;/a>
has about the same stats as me, but people said he would have no chance. What do you think of this?</p>

<p>From WA. higher SAT. work Experience.</p>

<p>when i say.. from WA.. i mean "not from NY"</p>

<p>A very similar program is offered through the college. If you choose to be a physics major, you get to pick between one of 5 concentrations. One of the concentrations is in business and technology. Basically it works like this-you take the 4 math requirements for a physics major, the 6 core courses in physics, as well as 2 electives in technology, engineering, or computer science. Then you also get to take 4 business electives. A few major advantages of this program are a) it is nowhere near as selective as fisher, but the courses you take are very simila
b)your schedule is not as fixed so there is more room to take electives that interest you</p>

<p>i'm thinking about applying EA. how are my chances then?</p>

<p><i>...M&TSI is a money-making scheme by Wharton (sorry), because its not <em>exclusive</em> (i.e. if you have the money to go... I think they let you in)...</i></p>

<p>Interesting... since some people got financial aid. Oh well..still a great program.</p>

<p>i second that mrs.hobbit</p>

<p>yea, but what about my question about applying EA?</p>

<p>First of all, it's ED, not EA, meaning it's binding. Also meaning that you ought to be 100% sure you want to go to Penn. And yes, ED will help--admissions rate are nearly double (for Penn in general, I don't know how much for M&T ED, but i assume it'd be around 15%). Penn favors those who apply ED ("the more students he [dean of undergrad admissions, Stetson] admits who are eager to be at Penn, the happier the campus") so if you're really unsure about whether you'll get in and really sure about penn, go ED and work hard on those essays.</p>

<p>G'luck!</p>

<p>what do you mean non-competitive school in WA state</p>

<p>its not the greatest school in WA state like Bellevue HS or Newport HS which are ranked in the top 20 public schools in the nation</p>

<p>those are top 20 in newsweek which only cares about number of AP tests per senior -- college admission folks laugh at that list</p>