2090 on the SAT
Either 3.79 or 3.86 UC GPA (Weak point)
OOS
Decent ECs, Varsity sport, volunteering, VP and cofounder of engineering club but I’m not applying for engineering.
Edit: I’m a junior, that’s why I’m not quite sure what my UC GPA will be yet.
I think they will both be a reach.
SAT score is within range but you want a UC GPA of 4.0+ by end of Junior year for the best chances especially OOS. You do realize that UC’s do not offer financial aid for OOS applicants, so expect to pay $55K/year to attend with the tuition increasing by 8% in the next few years.
@Gumbymom really? I thought it was easier to get in oos plus we don’t get points for honors classes, only AP. UC Davis had a 60 percent oos acceptance rate and UCSB had 38 percent oos rate.
@blueguy99 where did you get those statistics?
http://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/factsheets/2015/fall-2015-admissions-table2.pdf @thatone1
It is not easier as an OOS applicant to get an acceptance although admit rates are higher for OOS. UC’s require a higher UC GPA for OOS applicants to apply and required stats are higher than for in-state applicants. The admit rates have been higher in the past because there are less OOS applicants that apply vs. in-state, so less competition. Starting this year the UC’s have capped the OOS/International admissions, so it will more difficult for an admit along with the fact, the UC’s will no longer offer FA for OOS students. The stats you quote are from 2014 and 2015 admit rates have not been posted. All you can do is apply and hope for the best. If you can afford the costs, then us California residents welcome your money.
Good Luck.
Here is a link for admissions rates for the UC’s: 2012-2014
http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2014/fall-2014-admissions-table2.pdf
@Gumbymom do you have any references that back this up? I’ve never seen any actual stats that compare OOS to in-state applicants. The only published results are the tables you referenced, and they support the OP’s assertion.
True, but the GPA minimum is so low-3.4- that it doesn’t even come into play at UCSB or UCD- anyone around that GPA has no chance of acceptance anyway. So I don’t think one can make an argument that higher stats are needed for OOS applicants based on the GPA requirement.
Of course! And as far as admissions go, that’s the definition of “easier”.
I do not access to OOS admission stats for UCD and UCSB, but if you look at the link for UCB, they break out their stats by in-state/OOS/Internationals and all OOS averages are higher than in-state.
http://admissions.berkeley.edu/studentprofile
I also stated in my above post, that many UC’s will cap OOS admissions at 20% starting this year along with eliminating FA to OOS applicants.
Isn’t it just common sense that state schools would make it easier for instate students to gain admissions over OOS?
Yes, it is common sense. Yet at all of the UCs except UCB the acceptance rate is higher for OOS. So in this case the common sense view is wrong. Take UC Davis as an example. Would you rather be part of the applicant pool where 36% get accepted, or the pool where 56% get accepted? The former is in-state, the latter is OOS.
Gumbymom posted some nice data for UCB in her link above that does show higher stats for OOS applicants (thanks for posting the link!). But UCB is the only campus that has a lower acceptance rate for OOS than for in-state, so it’s no surprise that the stats are higher for OOS. At the other campuses, including UCLA, the OOS acceptance rate is higher. The stats may be the same, lower, or higher. Without the data I don’t think anyone is in a position to state definitively one way or the other.
@mobius911: The data I linked is for Freshman admissions through 2014. I believe things will change with the 20% Cap on OOS/International students at UCLA/UCB and the reduction of FA. Yes, the UC’s accept OOS at a higher rate but compare the numbers: UCD had over 46,000 instate applicants vs. 4300 OOS applicants. OOS applicants are placed into a different pool than in-state, so of course a lower number of applicants makes for a higher acceptance rate. What you should be focusing on if a UC is your goal, is to finish out your Junior year with a bang, a apply next year regardless of what CC posters are saying and get those acceptances. Your stats should speak for themselves.
Besides, I suspect that the caliber of OOS applicants is higher as a whole contrary to the in-state’s with more less-qualified students applying. The higher rate of OOS acceptence may be misleading as such!