Chances? :D

<p>Ah April's getting close and I'm starting to worry. Chances pleeeease? Thanks so much. <3</p>

<p>Asian female, Orange County area
Small urban public school
$100,000-120,000 income bracket</p>

<p>GPA: 4.4 W 3.9 UW
Rank: 2 of 300
SAT I: 2010 (680 W, 710 M, 620 CR)
SAT II: 770 Math 2, 700 Lit
AP Bio: 3
AP Chemistry: 2
AP Language: 4
AP Calc: 4
APUSH: 5
Current classes:
-AP Physics
AP Lit
AP Govt/Econ
AP Environmental Science</p>

<p>ECS
Journalism editor 2 yrs
Academic Decathlon
Altar Server 4 years
Hospital Volunteer 2 years, 200 hours
Varsity Tennis 4 years
NHS Secretary
Environmental Club VP
Math/Engineering Club VP
Make a Wish Club Treasurer
Girls State delegate
Math tutor
Anti-Violence annual seminar volunteer/co-organizer</p>

<p>Awards:
MVP tennis award, leadership
Honor roll all four years
Calculus silver medal</p>

<p>Catholic background, no legacy</p>

<p>Really good essay, I worked hard on it
Great letter of rec; My teacher who loves ND wrote letters of rec for 2 students who got in last year</p>

<p>Thanks in advance, I hope to see you all in the fall(hopefully)!</p>

<p>Wow at the income.</p>

<p>Being an Asian female will help a bit.</p>

<p>Everything looks solid to me.</p>

<p>aside from the SAT (mine was 2250) and the Asian-ness, you're me. Seeing as how those two probably balance each other out, and I got in EA, I'm gonna say you've got a good chance.</p>

<p>well her sat is a bit deceiving because her "ND" sat is a 1330.. which is somewhat low for ND ((( Im in ure same position.. so dont take that comment the wrong way)</p>

<p>but u have lots of APs and great gpa and great sat II s</p>

<p>good luck</p>

<p>Oh.</p>

<p>That's the writing score. It's not 1390.</p>

<p>If it's 1330, then she's got to worry a bit.</p>

<p>what's an "ND" sat score?</p>

<p>Critical reading and math.</p>

<p>Notre Dame doesn't look at your writing score yet.</p>

<p>but she's asian, so her score is probably good enough. My friend told me that she knows an asian kid who got in with an 1100 SAT.</p>

<p>i am Asian and i got in with 1250</p>

<p>I am white.... I need a 1500.....lol</p>

<p>But what score do you need if you've been an Altar Server?</p>

<p>u need a 1550 lol</p>

<p>haha thanks everyone. I will be sure to bring in the news in April :) is altar serving really a big thing? I just served during mass on Sundays for an hour or so, I was even hesitant in turning them in as community service hours because my friend told me they didn't count.</p>

<p>bqwe04... honest question to you</p>

<p>Do you think its fair that just because you ( or any minority for that matter)has a different color of skin that you or any other minorities can have lower stats and get in over another kid because he/she is white?</p>

<p>I have my own opinion.. but I was just wondering what you thought////</p>

<p>Even though I am hispanic, I do think that minority should not get as much special treatment; however, it should be counted minorily towards the process due to challenges that one overcomes for example learning english...</p>

<p>honestly.....no i dont think minority should be treated differently if they act, study and live like normal american teenagers. But in most cases they will be, not mainly because of color of the skin, but rather work ethics, overcoming things that will never occur to most normal american teenagers. I just got back from work in the restaurant, and what time is this now? Plus we unlike others have to work harder than most kids because otherwise we will be left in the dirt. In terms of academically, we are no different than any smart american teens. The only difference we might have is that our english is not as fancy or even correct in some matter than u people( not trying to point out anyone, just normal teens in general). i think that is excusable because most kids like me do speak several languages. Put it this way, if u move to china at the age of 10, dont u think its fair that they cut u some small slack when u apply to universities?</p>

<p>Yes, I do agree with you</p>

<p>"Plus we unlike others have to work harder than most kids because otherwise we will be left in the dirt"</p>

<p>See there’s just one problem I have with this. ( I got into a huge argument with my Christian Ethics teacher about this today, so its kind of fresh on my mind) It seems that people think to generalize or rationalize this situation to much. Sometimes it sounds like people think that all minorities are poor, and they all are receiving lower forms of education. And that the reasons they are receiving poor grades is because they constantly have to work to provide money for the families... etc. But, this is just not true. Sure, most of the impoverished have minority backgrounds, but certainly not all. I think there has to be some black and white lines ( not race related) that will determine where the advantages lie. The thing that gets to me sometimes is....... there are poor white people. There are white, American born, people who live in a state of poverty that equals what the African Americans and Latinos live in. So why doesn’t this poor white kid, who has all of the troubles that his minority peers have, receive the same beneficial treatments that are given during the admissions process. Therefore, I am personally against giving an African American student priority at Notre Dame if he grew up living a comfortable life style that would not warrant special treatment. So I think it should be based more on class than color. Give special treatment and lower admission standards to the poor, all races, even if that means taking my spot—because I can guarantee that kids who have to work everyday of their lives to just put food on the table for their families…. Or even be a parent to their younger siblings… has worked harder than me in the past 17 years and are deserving of a spot at The University of Notre Dame.</p>

<p>Now there’s the whole other monster of the issue that ND or any other U just wants to add diversity to their campus..........</p>

<p>This a good article on the issue that was printed in the Sun:
<a href="http://cornellsun.com/node/21149%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://cornellsun.com/node/21149&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>