<p>Just wanted to hear some thoughts on this one.
Senior at a top 3 public HS in PA
3.25 UW GPA, 3.88 W (slight upward trend)
SATs: 2200. 730 CR/710 M/760 W
SAT 2: 730 on US History
ECs: NHS (senior year), School Newspaper (writer 9th and 10th, Sports Editor 11th, Op-Ed 12th), Student Council (Member 10th and 11th, Treasurer in 12th), Wrote and maintained website for the school basketball team in 11th and 12th, Volunteer tutor to a disadvantaged elementary student (10th), Volunteer youth basketball coach (11th and 12th), Class President (9th), Member of the Golf Team (11th, 12th), Ref in a local flag football league (10th and 11th, head of refs in 12th), Umpire in a local baseball league (9th-12th).
Curriculum Strength: Took mainly Honors courses, will graduate having taken 5 APs.
AP Scores: 5 on APUSH and AP L&C.
National Merit Semifinalist (and hopefully finalist)</p>
<p>Also if my transcripts and App are in by November 1 but my rec. letters aren't, how does that work?</p>
<p>GPA’s a bit of a reach, but from what I heard from someone who talked to an admissions councilor, they look at your test scores, then essay, then GPA. Your test scores should be good enough to give them a good impression. If you’re essays are strong, you might get lucky with you unweighted GPA and out of state status.</p>
<p>Reach. I’m sorry but that GPA is awful. Even IS, you would be a reach. Your ECs are solid but none of the spectacular and would make me want to accept you in spite of your poor GPA. Your OOS status basically means you have no shot. Maybe if you were IS and you got a 4.0 this semester, you could get lucky with really strong essays and recs but Michigan is a GPA first school easily. GPA is by far the most important thing they consider. Sorry for being so negative but I’m just trying to be honest. </p>
<p>On a side note, do you, by any chance, go to Mt. Lebanon?</p>
<p>Admgod: and where do you get your information from? GPA has always ruled at UM; unless someone releases a public statement that this has changed, I won’t change my advice to students</p>
<p>Look at all of this adm guy’s post, basically he says if you don’t have a 32 ACT your reaching, regardless of what your GPA or other credentials are. Personally, I wouldn’t take him too seriously.</p>
<p>I like NonexistantExit comment.
GPA’s a bit of a reach, but from what I heard from someone who talked to an admissions councilor, they look at your test scores, then essay, then GPA. Your test scores should be good enough to give them a good impression. If you’re essays are strong, you might get lucky with you unweighted GPA and out of state status.
dantheman1018:best of luck, and keep work hard</p>
<p>At an admissions session this past month the admissions rep said “We want to see around a 3.7 (unweighted)…mostly As no more than a couple Bs and we like to see an ACT above 27 but what that means and how that is looked at will depend on which college you are applying to…more on that later.” He went on to say that for COE they look more closely at ACT math etc. etc. etc. </p>
<p>OP take it for what you want, but that is a fairly low GPA for Michigan. In fact you would not be able to remain in NHS at our Michigan high school with that GPA despite all your APs, standardized test scores etc. etc. However Michigan practices holistic admissions more or less so if you really want to attend and can afford to attend send an application in as it is admissions that will make the final decision not a message board. We don’t know the rigor of your school and we can’t put your GPA in context…admissions will look at you that way - in context with the rest of YOUR school.</p>
<p>Your application will not be complete until all items are received is what admissions said a few weeks ago at the same info session. This particular admissions rep encouraged the kids to get everything in on time.</p>
<p>Son graduated in 2010, had a 3.4 UW and 3.8 W GPA, 34 on ACT, 710 on Physics SATII, applied to LSA, got app in by first deadline, but rec letters did NOT meet first deadline. He was OOS and did get accepted, not for the first deadline, but when they started releasing decisions in Feb. That was two years ago, so don’t know if it is relevant, but I think the 34 ACT is comparable to your SAT. I was upset about the rec letter not getting done on time, but in the end he was accepted. It is worth a shot, IMHO.</p>