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Colleges and Universities A-Z Binghamton University - SUNY
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<p>I'm very interested in SUNY Binghamton and think I have a good chance at getting in, but I would like some outside opinions. Be nice please! :D</p>

<p>So...dun dun dun! Here's my Stats:
SATs: I'm taking the June 5th SAT but here's my average scores:
570 CR, 630 Math, 670 Writing (my best skill, which no one seems to care about <em>sighs</em>)
SAT Subjects: 630 Chemistry (not my thing) 670 US History, 680 Math I (before you start bashing me for not taking Math II, fyi I haven't taken pre-calc yet!)
APs: World History (3), Literature (hoping for a 3), US History (have a feeling I got a 5)
I took World as a Sophmore and took Lit and US as a junior (which I currently am).
GPA: 93/94 unweighted, 102.5 weighted
Freshman grades: all 90s
Sophmore grades: all 90s, except AP World (I got an 80!)
Junior grades: all 90s, except AP Lit (around an 88 :D) and AP US (around an 88 :D)
Based on the stuff on Naviance for my school, my GPA is higher than Bing's and my SAT scores always seem pretty much around the average in the 1800s.</p>

<p>Oops I forgot to talk about my classes besides APs. I'm in all honors classes for sophmore and junior years. Actually, I'm only in honors math this year but I'm also in college spanish and college forensics (It's so cool! I'll be taking sat physics next year.) Mmmm that seems to all that's necessary I guess...</p>

<p>Hmmm...is it time for personal info!? <em>Gasp!</em>
Ok, first off, I am a white female living in NY. Not very interesting, but what can you do?
I have a twin sister if that means anything special. She's also interested in Bing (Her stats are a little better than mine too! :p).
Extracurricular Activities:
Interact (community service club) 9-12
Spanish Club/Spanish NHS 11-12
Regular Old NHS 11-12
History Club 11-12
School newspaper (In my senior year, I get to be an editor of my own section! Hooray! :D) 10-12
Girls Varsity Tennis Team 11-12 (Don't plan on doing this in college btw. :O)
Ok clearly you can see I was more active this year, but I think it paid off. :)
This isn't a school extracurricular, but I have played the piano since I was 7. Totally love it. It's very very very very importante a mi.
I have over 120 hours of community service as well.</p>

<p>Hmmm that's all I can think of at the top of my head right now. I did visit Binghamton last summer and it was amaaaazing. I'm not huge on math and science, which I hear Bing is known for, but I do well enough to, let's say, not "rock the boat." I am undecided on all majors at el momento. I'm planning on exploring in college, which is what college is really about right? Anywho, what do you guys think? I have always thought I had a pretty decent chance but it's not set in stone. (And btw, don't take my light hearted nature as an idea that I "don't care," because I do, and I am passionate about who I am.)
:)</p>

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<p>I think you’ve got a great shot for Harpur, but for SOM, it could be a reach. SOM is super competitive, so you should get in if you’re not interested in business.</p>

<p>Here’s a few things you should know about your stats.
-While a 670 in writing is a great score, they don’t consider this section at all. Period. Just look at the middle SAT range of Bing’s profile on collegeboard.com. Empty for the writing section.
-Don’t worry about the SAT subject tests. They don’t take those into consideration as much as your SAT I’s. If anything, focus on your SAT I’s.
-I think they only consider your weighted average. Thus, your 102.5 GPA really shines here. For schools that don’t weigh AP/Honors courses, they might weigh those courses in themselves.</p>

<p>Actually, bing is NOT known for being huge on math/science. Schools like MIT are huge on math/science. Bing is very well known for business. SOM is the name of the game, and I highly recommend you try to get into this school. If you do, you’ll be the envy of your fellow peers. However, your SAT’s are too low for SOM. My advice, improve your SAT I’s (close to 1400 if possible)!!!</p>

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<p>I’m glad to hear that I’m a good shot for Harpur. I never really considered myself a busines person, but if I could get into SOM then that’s saying something right? So current stuff to do now I guess would be to work on my SAT score?</p>

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<p>Agreed with other poster. Boost your SAT I scores (M & CR) by at least 50pts each and you should be fine. ECs and grades look good as long as you keep them up senior year.</p>

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<p>let me clear things out, grade is not that important. You might not believe it,but it’s true.my GPA is 85 and my SAT:math 650,writing:500, reading:500. i took SAT2, but i can’t not remember the scores,something like 600 (math and chemistry). i’m from New York too,and i didn’t have a resume on my application,no any extra curriculums either. Forget those fancy clubs, volunteers stuffs. i did not participate any of them. I think the most important part is how you write your essay. you might focus on your essay right now other than increase your gpa or something.there are 5 people got accepted out of 100s at my school. I can tell you amount those five people, my sat score and gpa are the lowest. all my friends who got accepted have a lot of AP courses, high SAT scores,a bunch of activities etc…i’m not ****ting you,all you have to do is to think how to write an outstanding essay. I mean there are bunch of people who got high sat scores, gpa…so what, they are nothing more than bookishs…</p>

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<p>I see what you mean Eric. But I think our schools are a bit different. My high school has a pretty good relationship with Binghamton. According to Naviance, in 2009 77 seniors applied there and 26 got in. The year before had 58 who applied and 33 got in. Those seem to be pretty significant numbers. Someone who went to school in Long Island had only one kid get accepted into Binghamton, and he was the valevictorian! So I think the school has a good amount to do with it as well.
I didn’t see anyone on a list on Naviance who had a GPA below a 90, but their SAT scores did range from the majority scoring from give or take 1150 to 1350. I know the essay is huge and everything (It’s actually very important to me. I’ll be working on them all over summer vacation.), but I think grades do matter as well. Btw, I’m pretty normal as compared to the bookish kids that you’re talking about.</p>

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<p>holy ****, 33 out of 58.what percentage is that? You are no happened to be a Jew, aren’t you?? no offense, since you mentioned that your high school has a special relationship with Binghamton, you shouldn’t be worried too much. i would say you definitely on their list because my friend who got accepted has the similar application as you do…a lot of AP,extra curriculums etc. i guess relationship does play a significant role in every situation. i did not mean to say that you are a bookish,by the way…you are very sensitive.</p>

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<p>eric, I think you may have forgotten to mention that those 100’s who got rejected at your school applied to SOM. Anybody with high grades and high SAT’s school be able to get into Harpur. SOM on the other hand is more of a crapshoot even with those high grades and scores. That’s because, like I said, it’s super competitive. Everyone who applies to SOM has those high grades and high test scores.</p>

<p>Those 5 who got accept probably applied to the EOP program, which intentionally accepts students with low academic credentials. Also, being black/Hispanic gives you an edge among other students with similar credentials.</p>

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<p>Well I wasn’t planning on going to school for business, so I’m not too worried…</p>

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<p>i don’t know if those guys applied to SOM, but i do know those 5 who got accepted were definitely regular program. the other 4 guys got 1800 above in their sat as i recall…I know it’s very hard to get in, but there are exceptions,right?</p>

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<p>So I spent this afternoon/evening taking an entire SAT (except the essay which I estimated my score to be an 11 or 12 because that’s what I’ve normally recieved) in my study book. It gives me ranges for my scores, but I just found the mean of all of them. This is like my ideal score, so I flipped out because I’ve never done so well.
CR: 650 Math: 700 (!) Writing: 650
Writing was low for me, but hey, I never got above a 600 on CR before!
Any thoughts?</p>

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<p>Personally, I don’t trust the practice tests. They’re supposed to predict a score around what you might score on an actual test, but for me it was always a few hundred points off. On my first practice SAT I got a 1700, and I wanted to cry, lol. Then I took another one and got a 2100 or 2200. </p>

<p>I guess it depends on the person, really. But you’re supposed to do better on your second SAT than your first, so you’ll most likely see an improvement.</p>

<p>Even if you don’t bring up your SATs, you can redeem yourself with a killer essay/recommendations. </p>

<p>Oh, and I think you have a good chance of getting in. Do you know what your rank is? Well, even if you don’t, I’m sure you’re at the top of your class since your average is 102.5. Anyway, good luck!</p>

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<p>Ok, first of all, no one really envies the SOM students because most people who didn’t apply to SOM didn’t want to be in it (as opposed to the people who applied to the other schools just to get in the door and then realized that an intra-university transfer is almost impossible to SOM). If you’re not interested in business THERE IS NO REASON TO APPLY TO BUSINESS SCHOOL. Harpur is a pretty good liberal arts school and if that’s what you want to study, apply there. </p>

<p>Secondly, your GPA is great but your SATs need to come up. If you can achieve those practice scores you’ll probably be in range. And ignore that advice about doing absolutely nothing because it isn’t worth it anyway and the essay is all that counts- all that stuff you do DOES count and so does the essay, but the essay is almost always a tie breaking type of thing. My essay wasn’t particularly outstanding and I still got in, with a decent GPA, lots of extracurriculars and good SATs.</p>

<p>Thirdly, those numbers are very similar to my high schools as far as acceptances. My year, we had 25 people go to Binghamton (not acceptances- there were a lot more of those, but matriculants). This year its a little less but I think thats because the seniors started calling it B____ (my town’s name that also begins with a B) University. There’s a ton of kids from my town who are there. And, yes, I’m from Long Island and Jewish. And we may joke about it being a “special relationship” but that’s not necessarily true. </p>

<p>It sounds like you’re on the right track.</p>

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<p>Bignhamton is getting really competitive, i dont know how i got nto SOM this year. But you should boost your SAT score, bing absolutely loves SAT’s. I had a 1370 2 section score and only a 91 or so weighted gpa and got into SOM, that shows how into SAT they are. I hear that twins applying to the same school can actually help their chances, not sure how true that is though.</p>

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<p>No one envies the SOM kids? Just ask all the economics majors in Harpur who wished they were in SOM so that the big companies at the job fair will even acknowledge them. You will find that most ECON majors were originally undecided Harpur students who didn’t know what to major in during their freshmen years. Then when they heard about SOM, they tried desperately to transfer in, but faced fierce competition from their fellow peers who had 3.7+ GPA’s. Despite having a strong interest in business, but they were forced to take the closest thing to a business program that they could get in Harpur, which was economics.</p>

<p>Honestly, you should know what you field you want to get into the minute you get to Bing. The sooner, the better. If you’re absolutely sure that you do NOT want to have anything to do with business now or in the near future, then disregard all my comments about SOM.</p>

<p>As for SAT’s, make sure you’re practicing on REAL SAT’s published by the college board only. I would not trust the results that you get from 3rd party practice tests as they do not conform to every minute standard of making the SAT. I got a 590 in the math section of one of Barron’s practice exam. But on the day of the test, I got a 750 in the math section. In other words, USE THE BLUE BOOK.</p>

<p>@Eric, yeah, there are exceptions to everything. I have met lots of people with low SAT scores in Bing, and I wonder, “how did this guy get in?”</p>

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<p>That’s a pretty big generalization. Some people major in things because they felt it would better prepare them compared to a pure business degree (especially if they want to go to grad school in economics), others may like the liberal arts structure as opposed to a pre-professional school. Not every economics major wants to go into business just like not every biology major wants to be a doctor.</p>

<p>And seriously, NO ONE I’ve met envies SOM. Maybe you’ve met someone who regrets his/her decision but most people I’ve met seem happy about where they’ve ended up. </p>

<p>But enough off topic discussion. The OP isn’t going to school for business. Harpur is really nice (too many people discount it) especially if you’re unsure about a major. The gen ed program allows you to experience a variety of fields so you might find something you love. You don’t NEED to know what you want to do before going, but think about it so you can take an intro class in that area.</p>

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<p>Well, if you’ve taken an upper level economics course (I’ve taken two) and you talk to the people there, you’ll know what I mean. Many choose economics because “it’s the closest thing to business.” In other words, they couldn’t get into SOM. For those who did get accepted to transfer into SOM, they were previously economics majors. I’m sure there are people who could’ve gotten into SOM, but chose to stay in economics because they were actually interested in economics, but these folks are few and far between.</p>

<p>And if you kept up with the Binghamton Review publication during the 2007-2008 year, you would’ve seen some guy ranting about how the school only cares about SOM students and how he thinks it’s so unfair that a student who’s interested in business can’t major in business unless he or she’s got a 3.8+ GPA. So yeah, there are people who are envious of SOM students. However, it’s not everyone on campus; it’s just the ones who couldn’t get into SOM.</p>

<p>You’re right, you don’t NEED to know what you want to do, but the sooner you do, the better. I would recommend knowing right after your freshmen year. If you start deciding during your junior year, you’re most likely not going to graduate in four years.</p>

<p>Knowing what you want to do before you come to campus allows you to graduate in less than four years or pursue a double major.</p>

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<p>Thank you all for the responses, but, once again, I don’t have a huge interest in business. I’m leaning the most toward Harpur. As for my SATs, I took them and it felt similar to most of my practice tests. I checked the book I’ve been using and it’s a College Board SAT book, so I think it’s pretty accurate. I think I destroyed the writing section (not that it matters!) and had a shot at the critical reading (the vocab was tough though) as well as the math.</p>

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<p>I got my SAT scores. 600 CR, 620 Math, 640 Writing. I don’t think they’re that outstanding, but the math and reading scores (1220) is within Bing’s range.</p>

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<p>28 on the ACT. I think it’s possible!</p>