<p>Stats:
SAT I:2350
SAT II: Not taken, expect them to be around 780-800
GPA: UW: 3.9-4.0 (not sure if a 92 is counted as an A or not)
Rank: School doesn't rank note: (school was voted as "public elite" by Newsweek)
AP: 5 on 7 AP's</p>
<p>EC:
NHS Pres
Beta Club pres
Interact Club- VP
Debate team- pres
Science Club- VP
Piano-11 years, 1st in state competition( will send recording of Chopin's 4 ballades), numerous other awards.
XC- 2 years, All state in '05
Track- 2 years, 3rd in 2 mile at state.<br>
Debate- National tournament qualifier 06' (policy), State Championship (PFD)
Volunteering 300+ hrs.</p>
<p>Summer research at either USC (s. carolina), or Clemson.</p>
<p>teacher recs. will be solid.</p>
<p>Hook: Nothing stands out from any other Asian applying.</p>
<p>A friend of mine never recieved less than an A (was second in a class of almost 500), took 8 APs, was NHS treasurer, had 2330 on the SAT, 35 on the ACT, and scored close to if not 800s on 3 SAT IIs and she was rejected from princeton and MIT. </p>
<p>while you have great chances, I'm not sure it's appropriate to say that you're in everywhere.</p>
<p>I agree with Cincinnatistudent. It would be completely unrealistic to think that "You're in everywhere." I think I should make a thread that'll basically say any "chancing" done here is fairly useless. Especially when done by your peers (that is, people who are the same year as you and applying to the same schools; even people who are already at such schools can never predict much). Just try and see what happens. </p>
<p>Newsweek rankings don't matter; it's hard to predict SAT/SATII scores.</p>
<p>You will most likely get into 1 of your top 4. If you want to be absolutely sure, apply ED to Duke. I would be flabbergasted if you didn't get in. If you want to take a little more of a risk, apply ED to Princeton, because the admit rate is three times that of any other HYP at any other period in the process.</p>
<p>DO NOT apply EA to Harvard, Stanford or Yale. You are wasting your early chance. HYS are non-binding, and, therefore, there is almost no advantage to applying early. Especially since you are Asian and from public school, you should be applying ED to Princeton, where you will have a major advantage.</p>
<p>BTW, the way I do college counsiling (or that my school does rather) is as follows:</p>
<p>Double Reach: You will not get in unless your parents are billionaires, and thus are contacted by the development office or you are a recruited athlete. This prediction, sadly, comes true over 99% of the time at my school. </p>
<p>Reach: You are on the academic playing field at the school, but not above it. You are not a recruited athlete. Your ECs, while solid, are comparable to most applicants. Your chances of admission are between 10% and 30%</p>
<p>Reach/Possible: You are on or above the academic playing field at a school that is slightly less competitive than HYPSM. Between 30% and 40% chance of admission.</p>
<p>Possible: You are on the academic playing field, and the school is not super competitive. At this point, it comes down to your essays. If they show you off well, you have a really good shot. Overall chances between 40 and 60%</p>
<p>Possible/Likely: You are above the academic playing field, though not by a lot. Chances between 60% and 70%</p>
<p>Likely: You are above the academic playing field. If you visit the school and show real interest, you will get in. Chances between 70 and 95% (the only school in the country that I know of that guarantees admission is the University of Oregon, if your GPA is 3.4 or higher.)</p>
<p>are you kidding me? what is a typical asian male? </p>
<p>i dont expect every single asian male (actually very few) applying to have your stats...great scores, good GPA, national awards, multiple state awards in diverse areas, significant volunteering. I dont think you can ask for much more---just get solid recs and write good essays.</p>
<p>however your chances are still relatively low (relative to an URM or white student with your stats...) since you have to compete against the other asians for 19% of the class; i wonder what percentage of applicants are asians?</p>
Harvard LOVES debate and qualifying for the TOC is the pinnacle of debate success and so, I have never said this to anyone on CC before, but you're almost guaranteed admission to any college you apply to...don't listen to WHAT ANYONE ELSE ON THIS SITE SAYS SINCE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GREAT DEBATER!!!:) It's not only that, your GPA, test scores, and other EC's(with leadership positions) are stellar so just write decent essays and kick back and watch the acceptance letters roll in.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, once you get into Harvard, I would recommend joining the policy deabte team there. College debate is definitely a lot of work but I think it would be something that you would enjoy.</p>
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<p>Pure folly. What about the 2390/4.0/President of everything/super-dedicated scientist/guitarist/soccer player that was NOT Asian and was rejected from four of the five ivies he applied to at my school?</p>
<p>Nothing is guaranteed. Simple as that.</p>
<p>Thie OP, however, has an excellent shot, relatively speaking.</p>
<p>NHS treasurer is not the same as NHS president. That's the highest honor, honestly a former Duke admissions officer told me that.</p>
<p>I do think you're in everywhere IF YOU WRITE GOOD ESSAYS. I believe I said that in my previous post. If you by some chance are rejected, I'd say it's because you didn't take THAT many AP courses and maybe because your essays were weak-ish.</p>
<p>In any case, don't listen to any people on CC too closely. None of us are professionals.</p>
<p>whatever you say. i'm just quoting an authority here. it's just a prestigious position to hold that says something about your position in your high school. of course being president doesn't mean you did something as president. it DOES mean you were elected president.</p>
<p>Isn't WINNING the HS NationaL policy Tournament the "pinnacle of debate success"? Not simply qualifying? </p>
<p>And I did debate in high school as well. Granted, it was College NPDA debate, but that means many people I debated with/against did very well in high school policy, usually coaching their former teams in their spare time and judging. This is yet another example of what I mentioned before (ppl apply for college chancing other ppl applying for college). You have a good shot, but as i said before, track down the records of what happened to similar applicants in the past for the best estimate of your "chance."</p>
<p>There is no way NHS president is the "highest honor." It depends on the school; at some schools, NHS is plainly a joke. Even if it is big at your school, there are things that are more prestigious...such as, oh, I don't know...Class President?</p>
<p>no no don't misunderstand, i do debate too. NHS president is the highest academic award type of honor. its not extracurricular. i didnt mean highest honor in the general sense.</p>
<p>I think mboyle1988 above got it right. You have a decent shot at most places and if you apply to most, you should get in at one. Hey, mboyle, I also like your breakdown on what double reach, reach, etc. means--those are good.</p>
<p>Murasaki, while I agree with you that the person stating "your good at all these schools" is off base, you make it sound as if that person at your school that applied to 5 ivies and got rejected at 4 of them was a failure. Doesn't that mean he got in at 1 school? And if the goal is to go to an Ivy league school, wouldn't that be counted as success? Just curious?</p>