<p>What the hell are you guys talking about....Brown's average SAT score is 1390 (princeton review - about 690 verbal and 700 math), which puts him pretty much smack dab in the middle of the range you BIG FREAKS. Give it a shot my man, if you win them over with charm your other factors will not prohibit you.</p>
<p>That's pretty disheartening tansy. I would've thought that an SAT score of 1550 would've gotten you into about half of the top 20 schools. Unless of course you didn't apply to the other schools....</p>
<p>I've come to the conclusion that a lot of people on this forum overplay SATs at most colleges.</p>
<p>Overplay? Surely your SAT score outweights volunteering at senior centers and libraries.</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice guys, I'm not completely disheartened... </p>
<p>...but I'm also more wary.</p>
<p>And of course, all the admissions officers will surely love my charm and sharp wit. Rugged good looks helps too :P</p>
<p>sup - I know people with 1200's that go to Ivy Leagues - and w/o extremely impressive hooks. </p>
<p>It's hard to look at just a list of activities and numbers and immediately determine where the person will be accepted / rejected, so the easiest way to measure one student from another here seems to be by the SAT score. </p>
<p>When a college is flooded with 10k 1300-1600, I don't <em>think</em> that a specific number will determine your fate.</p>
<p>I have to agree, ohgreenpeace: "When a college is flooded with 10k 1300-1600, I don't <em>think</em> that a specific number will determine your fate." Schools thought of as purely academic institutions such as Harvard are looking for much more these days. Plus, my interviewer was very antagonistic. When I expressed my love for the humanities she questioned why I didn't love the sciences more. The interviewer plays a key role in the admissions process, and when my interview gelled amazingly well (like Middlebury) I got in, despite doing only an alumni interview. (90% of accepted students interview on campus.) So there are many factors. Not that this applies to you, but many people who I thought could never in a million years get into the ivies, got in because of some little desireable quirk. Maybe you turn an essay on the universe into a metaphor for a breakfast platter or I don't know what, but anyone can have the qualities necessary for Harvard. Weezer went there, so I'm sure that they wrote some essay on one day performing in a music video with Kermit and Harvard thought that unique...it just goes to show.</p>
<p>Of course, i don't think Bob Smith, 1300 SATs, will get into a college when his almost-twin, Rob Smith, 1600 SATs, doesn't.</p>
<p>The majority of people in the lower range of the SAT spectrum at big-name schools are people who get in for athletics, minorities, legacies, or have hooks that allow colleges to overlook the mediocre score. Typically, I think an average student with those grades, though he has a chance, won't get in. </p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
<p>I agree w/ you on that. If they were the same in nearly every possible way, then sure. The kid with the higher stats will win out. </p>
<p>But maybe the kid with the 1300 comes from Alaska, or a completely different upbringing from the norm. Then I imagine it would be a whole different ball game.</p>
<p>A good many top colleges may not give a damn about that and the higher stats will usually always win out. However, the difference between a 1500 and a 1600 is painfully small.</p>
<p>ohgreenpeace, why are you being so defensive? We are simplying stating what nuggets of information we have gathered from this site. You can form your own conclusions- that's your prerogative. If you want a discussion on this topic, at least commence a new thread- because right now, you sound like a querulous kid who just wet his pants after hearing that his stats aren't good enough to get him into a few colleges.</p>
<p>hm...I don't think I was being defensive, I never made excuses for my scores or that I thought my scores would be overlooked by my ec's. </p>
<p>I think what I actually did say was: at some colleges, your numbers, if not ridiculously bad, can be overlooked based on what you contribute / rec's / essays/ hooks ... you want to fill in the blank.</p>
<p>And as for making a new thread - I'm not really game on that. This is essentially my thread. If you don't want to read what I post in here fine, w/e</p>
<p>Yes, but you bluntly rebuffed sup and tranman's comments because they told you what you didn't want to hear- that a higher SAT is necessary to become MORE competitive at the Ivies. When you ask for opinions, you sit and listen and not argue, because you are asking someone else to take their time to help you. That's etiquette (or netiquette in this case)</p>
<p>I don't think ohgreenpeace was being defensive. She (I am assuming..) was just stating what she knows in response to sup and tranman. She wasn't getting frantic or anything, nor was she being rude. I think you are being a little bit paranoid,,dooit.</p>