<p>current hs junior
rank: top 3-4% out of 275
GPA: 3.96 UW
PSAT: 210
SAT: Taking in April
ACT: 31-science killed me
Ethnicity: white male
APs: takng English Lit and U.S. History this year, Calc BC, Bio, Macro and Micro Econ next year
ECs:
Racquetball Team (3years) Captain 2 years
State Latin Competition (1 year)
Student Advisory Council (1 year)
Latin Club (3 years)
NHS(one year)-can only join starting junior year
Pro-Life Club (3 years)
Community Service Program (3 years)- 3 hours per week</p>
<p>UNC-CH is extremely competitive OOS. IS...definitely not easy to get into, but much easier. i've heard a lot of instate kids say 'wow the oos kids are soooo smart.' lol...seems funny to me.
your numbers seem pretty good though and UNC definitely places a lot of importance on gpa, SATs and rank. my senior class president (amazing guy, everybody loves him, does seriously EVERY EC and excels at so much but his #s aren't perfect) got deferred along with a large group of other students with slightly sub-par numbers</p>
<p>thanks for that feedback. it makes everyone mad but i really want to know this. is it easier on a scale of 1-10 with in state being a 5 vs oos a 10 or is it more like 7 vs 10. cause if you think about it, if it is a 5 for in state then i hate to ask my parents to spend 30000 when i could just go in state for a lot less. i want the truth, not the "i can't believe you are criticizing unc" stuff.
cause i love unc but it still cost a lot oos.</p>
<p>umm....the difference between out of state students and in-state students seems to disappear after the first day of fall class.....everyone merges into the tarheel family....everyone tries to do well in school and you really can't tell without asking someone if they are out of state or not....and one more thing..we can't neglect the fact that in-state students are damn smart also lol.....but to answer your question..you can't tell the difference between in state and out of state.</p>
<p>vatownsend: Somebody else will probably give you a different answer, but here's my 2 cents. When people say it's so much easier to get in as an in-state student, this is true. But you have to remember that it's mainly because they take 82% in-state, compared to 18% (with a somewhat higher percentage this year) out of state. That does not mean, however, that the in-state students are mediocre--far from it. In fact, since UNC-CH is the flagship, that means that mostly top in-state students are accepted. Of those who choose to attend, many have turned down other highly selective schools, including Ivy's, to do so--for many reasons. And, usually, the top in-state students who apply to UNC-CH also apply, and are usually accepted, to Duke. And many of those same students also choose UNC over Duke; sometimes they choose Duke over UNC. For the in-state students who apply and can't get into UNC-CH, they often choose to attend one of the other 15 UNC system campuses. And, of course, many in-state students simply choose schools out of state or elsewhere in-state.</p>
<p>I can't really answer your question about the scale of 1-10; maybe someone else can. But I gather you are from Virginia? If so, UVA is an equally outstanding public university. William and Mary is wonderful, too. Of course, even though UVA takes ~30% out of state, it is also easier for an in-state Va student to be accepted, than the out of state student. But I suspect that the 70% from Virginia are top in-state students. Would you agree with that?</p>
<p>I know you're stressed with all this waiting, but it's only a little over a week now, right? I'd try to relax, wait for the acceptance, and then decide. Maybe you could call the admissions office and ask them about the academic quality of the in-state students compared to the out of state students. I'm sure they would be happy to talk to you, and that additional information might help with your decision. Finally, if it's money that is your concern at this point, I think you cannot go wrong with UVA. (Of course, if I'm wrong, and you're not from Virginia--then I don't know what to tell you!) :) This is just my perspective, but hope it helps.</p>
<p>Hopeful Aunt: Hi. I don't know what the new percentage will be, but it will be somewhat higher, because the out of state students who are awarded merit scholarships, including athletic scholarships, will now be considered in-state. Consequently, those students will not come under the 18% cap, so--in essence--the percentage of out of state will be higher. Again, not sure what that will be as I really don't know how many scholarships are awarded out of state. Including athletic, as much as 150+?? Just a guess. I'm not sure. Those figures may have been mentioned on some other threads here, though, if you check.</p>
<p>jack, thanks for giving all of this info. i am oos and this process just seems to drag on after march 1. i noticed that you know a lot about unc. and you seem to know a lot about va schools. i applied to wm and unc and honestly, either would be a dream. if i don't go to one of those, it will be probably be gt.</p>
<p>yes, i am from va but go to school in tn. and did not apply to uva. chapel hill as a town and area appealed to me more. i just loved the campus. and the food. and the admissions guy that did our tour thing was so nice and funny (and cute). i felt like i fitted into things there and even though i would love to go to wm, there was something "mayberry" about chapel hill than appealed to me.</p>
<p>Hi, gastudent. Thanks. I'm from NC, and I honestly don't know that much about Virginia schools, except that both UVA and Wm & Mary are outstanding--as is UNC-CH--everybody knows that about these schools! :) And I assume GT is Georgetown. We visited there when my daughter was a h.s. junior--really very impressive. She was mainly interested in the SFS program there, but in the end, decided it was too narrow a focus (for her) for undergraduate, and so ended up not applying, but we all loved our visit there. </p>
<p>I know it seems like a long wait, but really not that much longer now. All the best with your acceptances, choices, and decisions! Let us know what you hear and decide.</p>