Chances?

<p>2230 SAT - 800 CR, 750 V, 680 M
SAT II: 740 US, 720 Lit, 650 Math IC.
taking Math IIC tomorrow. </p>

<p>3.9 UW, 4.2/4.3 weighted. [At least] top 4% of competetive public school. </p>

<p>Extracurriculars (summary):
- VERY strong Speech and Debate (VP)
- Literary Magazine (editor in chief)
- Junior Statesmen of American (president) </p>

<p>Fluent in Russian (native language). Lots of experience as a debate teacher (summer job). LOTS of debate.
Good essays.</p>

<p>Pardon my tangents, but i was a debate geek in high school...</p>

<p>were you policy, LD, parly or someting else? Did you do a summer institute like DDI or any of that?</p>

<p>god were those fun times.</p>

<p>ok, on topic - why's your math so low? is that reflected in math grades, or just comparative experience?</p>

<p>haha, good to know a fellow debater! I'm an LDer, and I've been to three camps: Iowa, NDF, and NSD. =D and yourself? </p>

<p>math scores... haha, you see the discrepancy. basically, I was pushed ahead a few years in math (I took trig as a freshman, ap calc as a soph, and ap stat as a junior). The grades reflect that I struggled: B's first semester in both calc and stat, A's second semester in both as well. (On the bright side, AP Calc exam= 4, AP Stat exam = 5). By the time I took the SATs, I had forgotten most of the stuff on the test. Hence, math = struggle. </p>

<p>chances nevertheless?</p>

<p>I did policy in high school. Basically everyone on our varsity team went to DDI. My hydrogen fuel cell case was uncrackable =)</p>

<p>chances are middling to ok. Like 90% of the people who ask, it'll come down to your essay and 'why columbia' piece. Don't be afraid to work debate into your essay in a very creative fashion, talking about why it spurred intellectual creativity into a whole bunch of other fields, or how you joined it because it would give you such exposure to so many random aspects of learning, or how you found something totally unexpected because of it.</p>

<p>Oh, and keep in mind the debate scene at columbia sucks a big one. Parly is the only thing that has a serious representation (although mock trial is big), and even with parly, they're more of a drinking team with a debate problem.</p>

<p>thanks! I did work debate into my essays. I'm not sure, I feel like my essays are strong, but I don't have much to compare them to. The "why columbia" is pretty generic, I think. The sense of 'who you are' I'm happier with - it ties in being an immigrant, a debater, and my love of language =) </p>

<p>honestly, my first choice (ED) is pomona... so if I get in there, I guess columbia won't be an issue?</p>

<p>that would be the idea of ED, yes. =P</p>

<p>pomona's a great place, there's times I wished I was at a place as student-friendly as that.</p>