Chances...

<p>GPA : 4.05 out of 5.0 weighted (pretty bad I know, that's like top 18%ish in my HS although our school does not rank, I'm not very good at my humanities classes. But my grades show a very strong upward trend)</p>

<p>SAT: M:800, CR:660, WR: 690(or 650 since UMichigan takes the highest combined score)</p>

<p>SAT II's : Math Level II: 800, Chemistry: 800</p>

<p>AP's: BC Calculus-5, Chemistry-5, Statistics-5</p>

<p>EC/Awards:
-two time USAMO qualifier (AMC12: 129, AIME: 9)
-ARML participant (scored a 7 out of 8 in the 2006 ARML, which is like top 50ish that year?)
- AMC school winner/high scorer
- 3rd in my state math competition this year
- member of school math team
- random volunteering (60+ hours) for local non-profit organizations</p>

<p>I am going to major in math... also I came to U.S. at age of 11/12 and I'm U.S. Permanent Resident, do I need to take TOEFL?</p>

<p>don't know anything about TOEFL, and don't know what any of your acronyms mean. SATs are very strong, but I think UM might weight GPA a little more, so that could be bad. I think you will get in, it's just that if they see how strong your SATs are, they're gonna wonder if you were slacking or something in school (even if that wasn't the case). I'd try and get your senior grades up and then apply. That should help tremendously.</p>

<p>Well I do go to a very good public school (plenty of people at my high school have that kind of SAT scores)</p>

<p>Most of those acronyms are math-based competitions/tests. </p>

<p>We need your unweighted michigan GPA. This is calculated by taking ONLY your sophomore/junior year. Also, +/-'s do no count. Therefore, A,A+,and A- all equal 4.0; B,B+,B- all equal 3.0; etc. </p>

<p>You're SAT is fine. SAT II's dont count. AP's don't count.</p>

<p>If you're unwieghted GPA is above a 3.7, then you have a good chance.</p>

<p>UM does consider APs, don't they?</p>

<p>I don't think so. Just SAT/ACT</p>

<p>Hmm will AMC/AIME play a role in admission? (It seems that UMichigan takes these contests seriously?)</p>

<p>"A student's curriculum plays a large role in the application process, and the University wants to see students challenging themselves. If AP/IB or honors courses are offered, we encourage students to take advantage of those classes and perform well in them. Furthermore, a complete listing of credit granted for AP scores is available online. Please see Guidelines for the granting of credit and course placement for acceptable achievement on the advanced placement program examinations."</p>

<p>^from the umich website, regarding AP tests. So does that meant they look at the scores too?</p>

<p>I don't know if Umich takes the AMC/AIME seriously, I've never heard anythuing about that, and I would highly doubt that it would be a considerable factor in admissions. </p>

<p>vc08, Umich considers the AP curriculum. Which means that if you take a lot of AP classes, then you will benefit from it. They also grant you credit if you perform well on AP exams. However, AP exam scores are NOT factored into the admissions INTO the school.</p>

<p>why not? I mean every other prestigious school uses the exam scores. That's kinda the whole point of taking the classes. Also, what's your source? Not that I don't believe you or anything, but was just wondering where you found it...</p>

<p>I don't have any sources, but I think it has always been like this at Umich. I don't think the school wants to penalize someone for getting a low score on an AP test when many students don't take AP's at all. They probably also don't want to give a significant advantage to students who take a billion AP tests just bc they can.</p>

<p>Michigan wants to make it a fair playing field for all applicants. All students in the US have access to the SAT/ACT exams. However, many schools do not offer many AP courses, if any at all. Should a student be rejected because his school does not offer any AP courses? This is IMO why AP exams scores are not considered in the application process.</p>

<p>I think AP exam results matter a great deal. Even if Michigan does not have a formated method to include AP results in the admissions process, it would be naive to say that an applicant who sends an official AP report with 5s in AP Calc BC, Physics, English and both Econs will not be taken very seriously.</p>

<p>quote:</p>

<p>However, many schools do not offer many AP courses, if any at all. Should a student be rejected because his school does not offer any AP courses? This is IMO why AP exams scores are not considered in the application process.</p>

<p>my comments:</p>

<p>Our high school offers exactly 3 AP classes -- AP English, AP Calc and AP Biology. All are taken as a Senior. Which means the scores can't help you as far as getting into Michigan.</p>

<p>I say don't worry about the AP's. Colleges know which schools have or don't have AP courses and take that into account.</p>

<p>I agree with shyanne. Just like students who don't have the opportunity to take AP classes shouldn't be at a disadvantage, neither should students who've challenged themselves through AP classes. That makes everything harder: time management, ECs, etc. Those who've taken them know what I mean. Besides, like shyanne said, if they know student's aren't offered AP classes (which is written in the school profile), they won't be punished.</p>