chances...

<p>in-state
GPA - 4.59(90/865) - Top 11%</p>

<p>ACT - 29
SAT - 1300/1960</p>

<p>classes - relatively rigorous
4 APs</p>

<p>EC
NHS 2 yrs
DEBATE 2 yrs
TSA 1 yr</p>

<p>Economics...but I actually want to learn about econ and not going just cause it's an easy major to get into(though i might switch to psych if I don't like econ)</p>

<p>If those are your only ECs, you definitely need to have been successful and involved in them--are you an elected officer? Are you all state? Etc.</p>

<p>Your SAT scores are higher than average for UT.</p>

<p>For kids who aren't in the top 10%, a lot of it really depends on where you went to high school. Getting a 4.0 at the Talented and Gifted Magnet School or a well-known prep school is much more difficult than at a small rural or poor-performing urban school. UT will know this and take it into consideration.</p>

<p>Econ is pretty competitive I think, but I'd say you have a good shot at undeclared Liberal Arts admission.</p>

<p>thx for the reply yeah my ECs suck I go to an above average school in TX far from being a rural school but not a big time competitive one, just above average.</p>

<p>Which test score should I send? ACT or SAT?</p>

<p>Both test scores are pretty similar, so it really shouldn't matter. You will most likely get in because your rank is high in a big class and your scores are good enough. You don't have very many ECs but I had even less(granted my standardized test scores were higher, and top 13%) so yeah..</p>

<p>^^can you post some of your stats? Major you got in?</p>

<p>32 ACT(29 R,30 W, 33 S,35 M)
1380 SAT(590 R, 790 M)
Top 13.5% in a class of 787 that sent ~40 people to UT my year.
No clubs but I went to one meeting of one so I put it on there.
2 years of JV soccer.
No official community service hours so I used some car wash thing I did a while back.
1 Ok letter of rec, and another I never got to read.</p>

<p>I got into Electrical Engineering-first choice.</p>

<p>can I get any 2nd opinions?</p>

<p>my school is in the top 100 in the nation, and sends 75-80 kids to UT per school year. What i'm saying is that as long as you think your school is very good in the eyes of UT, you should be in good shape (11% is almost as good as 10%, except that it's not guaranteed).</p>

<p>Well, let's apply you to the official formula:</p>

<p>I assumed you got around 650 on each section of the SAT. Based on that, the UT formula gives you a predicted GPA of 3.27. The rigor of your secondary curriculum would probably qualify you for a bonus point, so your "predicted freshman GPA" would be 3.37. If your math score was the higher of the 2 SAT scores, your score would be slightly higher, and if the reading score was the higher, the predicted score would be slightly lower (a max difference of .07 in either direction). They will multiply this by 100 to achieve your "Academic Index," which for you is 337. A theoretical maximum of 410 is possible for a student who has a 1600 SAT and is #1 in their class (only possible out-of-state). A theoretical minimum is at 047, for a student who earns a 400 on their SAT and is ranked last in their senior class. An "average American student," one with a 1000 SAT and ranked exactly in the middle of their class, would have a 220. It's hard to say what the average index would be for an applicant who isn't in the top ten percent because there really isn't enough info on the matter. In 2000, 87% of applicants were in the top quarter of their classes (but only 50% were in the top ten, including those from out of state) and 60% of applicants had SAT scores above 1200. The SAT scores as a group for top ten kids and non-top ten kids are nearly identical, so these numbers mean that in 2000, 75% of students not in the top ten were in the top quarter and 60% had above a 1200. If you say that the average applicant not admitted under the top ten law has a 1240 and is ranked at #20 of 100 in his senior class, and half of those students met the requirements for the bonus 10 points then that would lead to an average AI of about 308. You are above average here, but not significantly so.</p>

<p>Students with a 660 on the SAT Writing tended to have essay scores around 9 on the SAT Essay. For the UT Essays, that would lead to a mean essay score of around 4.5. I'd say your extracurriculars would either earn a 2 or a 3 out of 6 (unless you've devoted an incredible ammount of time to them or are a leader in them and just didn't say it on your post). The average is between a 3 and a 4. Based on the scale of 4/7 for the "personal achievement" and 3/7 for the essays, this would result in an overall "Personal Achievement Index" for you of between 3.07 (if you get a 2 on the PA) and 3.64 (if you get a 3 on the PA). The average applicant earns a 3.5, so you are slightly below average.</p>

<p>They then graph this onto a graph with the PAI on the Y-axis with 6 at the top and 1 at the bottom. The AI is on the X-axis with higher scores at the left. The closer to the upper left one is, the more likely one is to be admitted to the school. You would be slightly lower than the average applicant and slightly further to the left. The admisssions department then chooses which range to admit, which range to admit but into a second choice college or major, which group to offer summer admission to, and which group to offer CAP to. Out of state students cannot receive summer admission or CAP--they are either admitted or denied.</p>

<p>You are borderline for admission. You're probably around the 40th percentile of applicants who aren't top 10. However, only around 30% of applicants outside the top ten law are accepted. It really depends on which cells of the graph they choose to admit this year.</p>

<p>My projection is that you will be offered admission to the summer freshman class.</p>

<p>theloneranger...how do you know about this stuff?</p>

<p>Based on UT's holistic formula though, does it matter that I'm in top 11%? Or are top 10-25% lumped to together equally? Nothing in your post suggests so.</p>

<p>I do have to ACTs of 28 and 29, when combined together taking the best scores I would get a 31 with a 7/8 essay I believe.</p>

<p>I got an 11/12 on the SAT essay.</p>

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my school is in the top 100 in the nation, and sends 75-80 kids to UT per school year.

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That has to be the most random **** ever pertaining to this thread.</p>

<p>What high school do you go to?.. You are trying to get into one of the easiest majors to get into at UT(could be a default major if you don't get into any other school), so I say you have a pretty good chance.</p>

<p>The info is all in the public record. I just searched for the info online.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/Inter-raterReliability2005.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/Inter-raterReliability2005.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>It pretty much explains it all. Basically, your academic index is a combination of your SAT or ACT scores plus your exact class rank, which are all weighted differently. That part really isn't so holistic--they just plug your numbers into the formula.</p>

<p>The holistic part is the PAI, where they rate you on a scale of 1-6 for your "personal achievement" and your essay. If your SAT essay was an 11, then you might actually get higher than I suggested above.</p>

<p>It also all depends on which portions of the graph the school chooses to admit each year.</p>

<p>But as a Texas resident you're pretty much guaranteed a place at UT either through regular admission, summer admission, or CAP.</p>

<p>You're borderline regular/summer. ff they score your essays in the 5 or 6 range, then I'd say regular admission. If they give you a 3 or 4, then summer.</p>

<p>Well I was just trying to provide an anecdote to theloneranger's post #2 of this thread. So..yeah the strength of high school does matter to UT. And I'm not gonna say my school for fear of lurkers from my school lol. But just look up newsweek 100 and its one of those TX schools.</p>

<p>Well...theoretically it actually DOESN'T matter. But everything I've seen is that kids from better schools tend to be admitted above kids from not so good schools when it comes to admitting outside the top ten.</p>

<p>This is likely because these kids have stronger extracurriculars, are usually much stronger writers and have higher SAT scores, though, and NOT because they went to a stronger school.</p>

<p>The high school you attend isn't officially listed as one of the things they can use to grade your Personal Achievement. The socio-economic status of the school is--ie they will give you more credit for your achievements if you attend a poorer high school. However, students from stronger high schools probably get their best advantage in the essay category--which is 3/7 of the Personal Achievement score. The stronger a writer you are, the more likely you are to be admitted.</p>