chances?

Colleges & Universities A-Z The University of Texas at Austin
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<p>"theloneranger: you are incredibly proud and defensive about UT and Plan II, aren’t you? </p>

<p>First of all, thousands more applicants apply to Ivies than Plan II. On the Plan II website it states that it accepts about 330 students out of 850-1100 applicants, shooting for 180 students to actually matriculate (<a href=“College of Liberal Arts | The University of Texas at Austin)%5B/url%5D”>College of Liberal Arts | The University of Texas at Austin)</a>. </p>

<p>330/850 * 100% = 39%
330/1100 * 100% = 30%</p>

<p>So, Plan II’s acceptance rate is about 30-39%. NOT about 20%. Granted, there probably has been a surge in applications this year, but without any factual current numbers to refer to, I would not extrapolate that Plan II has scaled back to a 20% acceptance rate.</p>

<p>Harvard, on the other hand, just witnessed a record number of applicants, more than 27,000 students (even without early action), shattering the previous record of 22,955 set this past year (<a href=“http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/...missions.html)%5B/url%5D”>http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/...missions.html)</a>.</p>

<p>That being said, stop inflating Plan II to that of an Ivy level. Plan II is great, but it’s NOT Ivy level. According to U.S. News, Ivies’ acceptance rates are MUCH lower than Plan II’s 30-39%:</p>

<p>Yale, Harvard = 9% acceptance rate
Princeton = 10%
Columbia = 12%
Brown = 14%
Dartmouth = 16%
Penn = 18%
Cornell = 25%</p>

<p>Here is the link to the source: USNews.com: America’s Best Colleges 2008: Lowest acceptance rates</p>

<p>Look, everyone knows Plan II is a great program that’s hard to get in, but theloneranger, really, when you talk about acceptance rates and overall admission it’s not as comparable to the Ivies. You needn’t need to include with every other post that Plan II is as good as the Ivies or in the post above, more competitive than Ivies to get in; people know Plan II is a very reputable program, okay.</p>

<p>Ivy admissions are much more complicated or perhaps arbitrary and thus extremely hard to get in, the hardest schools to get into besides Stanford, MIT, Duke, UChicago, and a few others; Plan II on the other hand clearly states on its website the types of students its looking for and even suggests on its Essays page how to score well on the essays portion. </p>

<p>According to your logic, Plan II is more competitive to get into than Cornell, the Ivy with the highest acceptance rate of the Ivies. That is just completely wrong."</p>

<p>I’m surprised you had no response loneranger… do you stand corrected?</p>

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<p>I honestly don’t remember ever reading that post. But I shall refute it now.</p>

<p>Plan II has had that same statement on their website since I was in 8th grade and first found out about the program. While I am not positive, I highly doubt that it is accurate as the number of applications to UT has surged in those 5 years and so then would the number of Plan II applicants.</p>

<p>All Plan II applicants got an email stating that the yield has been far too high the past several years, and rather than another professor they are simply cutting back on the number they accept. As Ivies have gotten more competitve, Plan II hasn’t been able to keep a low number. So the number accepted will contract (I’ve also heard they are trying to actually cut down on the number entering but I’m not positive).</p>

<p>20% is an estimate based on the numbers I’ve heard this year. It could very well be wrong.</p>

<p>If you look at the admitted student profiles, you will see that Plan II’s accepted student numbers compare very favorably with each and every Ivy. Plan II just doesn’t see the need to be as ultra-selective (likely because it isn’t as well known).</p>

<p>And academic excellence and admission rates are far from equivalent. Because of the top ten law, UT accepts half of the applicants. UT could have a smaller class and accept fewer and still be an outstanding school.</p>

<p>Almost everyone I know who has heard of the program consider it to be equal to an Ivy league school.</p>

<p>People actually DON’T know of Plan II very much at all. Many people have never heard of the program, which is a shame.</p>

<p>And when you are doing a chance thread, it’s important to be realistic. If you tell a kid he’s sure to get in and he doesn’t, that just makes you feel bad. But if you tell him how hard it is to get in, and he does, that’s a great surprise. If he didn’t, then he understands how difficult the applicant pool is and that it isn’t something to feel bad about.</p>