<p>theloneranger: you are incredibly proud and defensive about UT and Plan II, aren't you? </p>
<p>First of all, thousands more applicants apply to Ivies than Plan II. On the Plan II website it states that it accepts about 330 students out of 850-1100 applicants, shooting for 180 students to actually matriculate (<a href="http://www.utexas.edu/cola/progs/plan2/applicants/)%5B/url%5D">http://www.utexas.edu/cola/progs/plan2/applicants/)</a>. </p>
<p>330/850 * 100% = 39%
330/1100 * 100% = 30%</p>
<p>So, Plan II's acceptance rate is about 30-39%. NOT about 20%. Granted, there probably has been a surge in applications this year, but without any factual current numbers to refer to, I would not extrapolate that Plan II has scaled back to a 20% acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Harvard, on the other hand, just witnessed a record number of applicants, more than 27,000 students (even without early action), shattering the previous record of 22,955 set this past year (<a href="http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2008/02.07/99-admissions.html)%5B/url%5D">http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2008/02.07/99-admissions.html)</a>.</p>
<p>That being said, stop inflating Plan II to that of an Ivy level. Plan II is great, but it's NOT Ivy level. According to U.S. News, Ivies' acceptance rates are MUCH lower than Plan II's 30-39%:</p>
<p>Yale, Harvard = 9% acceptance rate
Princeton = 10%
Columbia = 12%
Brown = 14%
Dartmouth = 16%
Penn = 18%
Cornell = 25%</p>
<p>Here is the link to the source: USNews.com:</a> America's Best Colleges 2008: Lowest acceptance rates</p>
<p>Look, everyone knows Plan II is a great program that's hard to get in, but theloneranger, really, when you talk about acceptance rates and overall admission it's not as comparable to the Ivies. You needn't need to include with every other post that Plan II is as good as the Ivies or in the post above, more competitive than Ivies to get in; people know Plan II is a very reputable program, okay.</p>
<p>Ivy admissions are much more complicated or perhaps arbitrary and thus extremely hard to get in, the hardest schools to get into besides Stanford, MIT, Duke, UChicago, and a few others; Plan II on the other hand clearly states on its website the types of students its looking for and even suggests on its Essays page how to score well on the essays portion. </p>
<p>According to your logic, Plan II is more competitive to get into than Cornell, the Ivy with the highest acceptance rate of the Ivies. That is just completely wrong.</p>