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Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Michigan
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<p>My kid is applying to Umich OOS. We live in New Jersey and he is a white male. He attends a pretty difficult private high school. Here are his statistics:</p>

<p>EC's/Leadership=Average (some sports, some service, a club or two, school newspaper)
Essays/Recs=Good</p>

<p>SAT=1390 (700 CR, 690 Math)
GPA (UW)=3.77
GPA (UMICH)=3.56</p>

<p>Supposing this OOS application with these stats was submitted, how many times out of 10 would this person be accepted? My son will have his application in the mail before the end of September.</p>

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<p>Maybe around five?</p>

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<p>imo 2 or 3
gpa is too low and SAT does not make up for it.</p>

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<p>I'd say he has a decent chance if he applies early.</p>

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<p>Slight reach. His SAT is good but he is OOS and has a slightly lower than average unweighed GPA and Michigan is admitting a smaller percentage of applicants each year.</p>

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<p>Alexandre, would you say 40%? The terms slight reach and reach just don't give me a good sense of the difficulty. I cannot estimate what you really mean by them because the definition is undefined. I am assuming that a reach is a school where the odds are against you getting in, but please clarify?</p>

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<p>I cannot place a percentage on your son's chances. He has a realistic chance, but the odds aren't great. Like I said, it is a slight reach. Last year, the average student admitted into Michigan has a 3.85 Michigan GPA and around a 1400 SAT score. This year's numbers have not been published, but I would assume it has gotten harder to get in and the coming year should be even tougher. There was a time when Michigan was admitting over 50% of students, but Michigan admitted 40% this year and is expected to admit fewer than 40% next year. But all this said, odds are impossible to calculate.</p>

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<p>Why is it getting more difficult to get in? I read somewhere that each year there is a slight decline in the number of students applying to colleges nationally, and the numbers have already reached their peak. I suppose more students are submitting more applications, or is Michigan just a hot school?</p>

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<p>It is hard to explain why some schools have an increasingly large applicant pool. Michigan is definitely a "hot" school, and it has resisting going into the common application list. Schools that do really enhance the size of their applicant pool. One of the reasons for the increase in the size of applicant pools has to do with the fact that each year, the importance of a good college education gains momentum and assuch, a larger percentage of students will apply. So even if Michigan's population is declining, the percentage of students within the state (and from other states and countries) is increasing at a greater rate.</p>

<p>Below are admissions stats for the last 5 years:</p>

<p>Incoming Freshman class for the Fall of 2004
21,200 applied
13,200 admitted
62% accepted
Mid 50% ACT range: 25-29</p>

<p>Incoming Freshman class for the Fall of 2005
23,900 applied
13,600 admitted
57% accepted
Mid 50% ACT range: 25-30</p>

<p>Incoming Freshman class for the Fall of 2006
25,800 applied
12,200 admitted
47% accepted
Mid 50% ACT range: 26-30</p>

<p>Incoming Freshman Class for the Fall of 2007
27,500 applied
13,800 admitted
50% accepted
Mid 50% ACT range: 27-31
(just so that you can compare, even mega selective schools such as Cornell, Columbia and Brown have mid 50% ACT ranges in the 28-32 range).</p>

<p>Incoming Freshman class for the Fall of 2008 (preliminary figures)
29,500 applied
12,500 admitted
42% accepted
Mid 50% ACT range: I am guessing 27-32</p>

<p>If your son is applying this fall, I would say he will be applying with roughly 32,000 students (assuming the trend of the last 5 years persists) and given the yield of recent years, I doubt Michigan will admit more than 12,500 of those students. </p>

<p>Part of the appeal of Michigan is that it is still relatively easy to get into. It still accepts over 40% of applicants. Other schools of its calibre are accepting 15%-30% of their applicants. But that also probably means that Michigan will experience a more rapid growth in applicants than its peers over the next few years. I would not be surprised if Michigan were receiving 40,000 applicants by 2012.</p>