<p>impale+epicenter :p</p>
<p>^hah, good to see a dota player in here. I thought CC'ers were all nerds! Excuse me, then!
Now I am in love with Invoker!</p>
<p>^ dota players are the real nerds buddy =)</p>
<p>Invoker is imba man.. friggin meteor :D</p>
<p>-invokelist</p>
<p>Btw the SSAT is quite different from the SAT. It is used not for college admissions but for admissions into high schools (SSAT stands for Secondary School Admission Test). You can check the link Narsil gave before as well as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_School_Admission_Test%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_School_Admission_Test</a> for more info.</p>
<p>As for the OP, if he witnessed cheating at the exam venue, he definitely should report it! The only people who will benefit if he doesn't are the ones who gained unfair assistance. And how well the OP performed on the test or how good his English is are IMO quite irrelevant to the question.</p>
<p>.. and it is not administered by the college board. :)</p>
<p>I like Enchantress though :D</p>
<p>Hehe .. Impetus rocks.. especially when chasing another hero</p>
<p>i'm not quite sure if i understand a lot of these comments. as a college student, i can assure you that cheating and plagiarism are taken very seriously. i'm not familiar with the SSAT in vietnam, but if there are cheating incidences occurring or unfair advantages given to students who are taking the exam, then it should be reported. </p>
<p>i know that vietnam's education system is a complete piece of corruption to begin with, but does that mean that a boy who observes this (disregarding what his score is) should ever compromise his morals and values in order to adhere to the ridiculous standards of the country? i can't on any level agree with anyone who is telling boyvn to shut up and assuming that he's bringing this up due to his improper english and supposed low score - by the way, his english is not nearly as bad as the many international students at top-tier universities. </p>
<p>if his act of reporting the issue will cancel the scores of others who did not partake in the cheating, then i believe that they can retake the test and repeat their outstanding performance. if they can't, then i'd think it's fair to doubt their abilities/integrity on the first test. </p>
<p>in the states, it's not only encouraged but also required for one to report cheating on an exam. the honor code that we sign on the SAT serves the purpose of informing and binding everyone to do so. i can't imagine higher-education students not knowing this. </p>
<p>boyvn, i support you in reporting the incident, though i know it may difficult given the norms of vietnam's education system.</p>
<p>^ yeah Boyvn your standard of english, however horrendous, is out of the question here....give it to those slimeballs, go report them</p>
<p>just make sure you dont get shot by the communists in the process lol</p>
<p>Wow, I didn't realize our newest crop of internationals is so morally bankrupt. Let me lay this out very simply:</p>
<p>A proctor cheating at a testing center, by policy, invalidates every test that session. That is the fact of the matter, and it is a good idea. Will there be some kids who get screwed by this? Yes. But the OP is being screwed if he doesn't report the preferential cheating.</p>
<p>You're telling him if he'd prepared harder he wouldn't' care about the cheating and wouldn't report it? What a steaming load of bull*<strong><em>. I'd be *</em></strong>ed at any cheating, even if I felt I aced a test.</p>
<p>As for those of you who say you cheated and it's not wrong... time to reset your moral compass, honestly.</p>
<p>It's a sad day on CC when a post like the OP's elicits responses like this...</p>
<p>^ while i am also of the opinion that such transgressions should be reported and dealt with, i think people like 1of42 & swtvtgyrl lack a serious dose of reality</p>
<p>its a pragmatic and ultra-competitive world out there boys, even more so when it comes to the cutthroat competition we face in selective college admissions which frankly speaking youths at our age lack the tenacity and guile to deal with</p>
<p>just picture yourselves having tried the hardest of the hardest but end up achieving lacklustre scores on practice tests and your first try....on your 2nd go you had an amazing twist of fate and achieved what really was a gift from god, a score that you never even thought of (even though some slimeballs cheated at the test)</p>
<p>sure it would be easy to argue off the book that its morally incorrect to keep mum and silently reap the benefits, and that such luck might do you a disservice in the future.....BUT would you really go and report this, knowing that you'll give away the scores which place you in reach of a place in one of the most prestigious schools you have ever dreamt about, or which could potentially offer you a full-ride in a time of utmost financial need? and knowing that you might probably never achieve the scores on another sitting</p>
<p>WOULD YOU? if you wouldnt, cut out the pretence and self-righteousness</p>
<p>if you would, you're probably either very very privileged, or u'll be the victim of your own bigotry some day....either way, you're irrelevant in the context</p>
<p>Well, forget about the moral load and think about this:</p>
<p>1)The OP nails the test - The OP does so well on the test that he acn't believe he can ever get a higher score. Who cares if people cheated? He is getting the score he wanted and he doesn't want it to be cancelled. So, he doesn't report it. Not because he lacks moral fibre, but because he doesn't want to spoil his own future because of some dorks who cheated.</p>
<p>2)The OP bombs the test - The OP does so badly on the test that he thinks he should've cheated too. His moral obligations notwithstanding, what does he do? He starts a thread in CC and the rest is before you.</p>
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<p>You believe that cheating is wrong, right? Good. So do many. If a child prepares very hard for a certain test and on the test day, he finds out that some people cheated on it but he gives the test honestly and aces it, is he morally wrong to not report the incident? I don't think so; why have his score cancelled because of a crime he didn't commit?</p>
<p>When in doubt, the last thing you want to do is take a hurried decision. Think of what it means to you, the hours you have toiled to ace a test and if you discover that you did not cheat at all in the test, your morality will remain intact. There is little use of complaining if you nail the test and get the score you always wanted. But this, is clearly not the case with the OP.</p>
<p>I'm thinking of giving CB a call; when I took the test in October I saw a girl finish her essay a few seconds after time was up.
I don't know her name but if I don't do this I won't be able to sleep and she'll end up in jail because she is morally a criminal.</p>
<p>lOngbOWmeN: No, I wouldn't. But that wasn't what I was taking issue with; I was taking issue with the fact that people were saying he was only consider the option because he got a bad score... as if that's a bad thing! The cheating happened, and it deserves to be reported. Whether he does it or not is his decision, but it's not a bad thing that he's considering it, certainly.</p>
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You believe that cheating is wrong, right? Good. So do many. If a child prepares very hard for a certain test and on the test day, he finds out that some people cheated on it but he gives the test honestly and aces it, is he morally wrong to not report the incident? I don't think so; why have his score cancelled because of a crime he didn't commit?
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<p>I was referring to your comment about cheating on the SAT (looking at the essay question ahead of time) where you acted as if it were no big deal.</p>
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<p>droll sense of humour there</p>
<p>but OP's case does sound a little fishy lol</p>
<p>Richard Sherwood of AEG is very well known in the industry for helping students to cheat their way into American Schools, then cheating the students with exorbitant fees to house them in his own home in Oregon. When schools find out that his students don't actually speak English and ask his students to leave, he shuffles them around the country from school to school and warehouse home to warehouse home. There are blatant instances of him having English speakers take TOEFLs and SSATs for non-English speaking students just to get them into the US for his own financial gain.</p>
<p>If you don't believe me, just try Googling him to find his web-site for AEG. He doesn't even hold a business license in the United States. AEG's website existed for 3 weeks, just long enough for him to get an "exlusive contract" with the Hanoi Flash Project this month, then disappeared. Try finding his old business, Pacific Northwest Language Institute. It's gone. His "exclusive contracts" always have a clause that the contract continues to renew annually unless one of the parties terminates the contract at the renewal date. Guess who won't answer his phone and has abandoned his physical address when the other parties try to terminate their contract?</p>
<p>Try contacting any of the schools he had an "exclusive contract" with as Pacific NW Language Institute and ask them if they would recommend him for any services to families or students. </p>
<p>Pacific International Academy at Marylhurst College 503.636.8141</p>
<p>Oregon Episcopal School's International Program (503) 246-7771</p>
<p>La Salle of Milwaukie 503-659-4155</p>
<p>Riverdale High School 503-892-0722</p>
<p>If there are terrorists in Viet Nam who want into the US, Richard Sherwood is a great way to get here. Since he changes the name and location of his business every few years and is now based out of Hanoi, the US can't touch him. There are complaints on file with INS on him, but he skirts the law just enough to get away with it.</p>
<p>I don't know that any of these businesses that solicit students are much more than crooks. The only honest people I have ever worked with are employees of the schools the students are applying to. There will be a paying student to fill that spot whether they're from Hanoi or from Hancock.</p>
<p>OP's post is absolutely accurate to the experiences everyone I know has had with Richard Sherwood in any of his various entities. I hope people will avoid him.</p>
<p>Wow... That's crazy. Could the OP submit a complaint anonymously? It wouldn't be guaranteed that scores would be cancelled. I don't believe this man should be allowed to get away with it.</p>
<p>that’s scary. but some of my friends had similar experience with AEG and this guy, as missymiss said, so I guess it’s true. I feel bad for those who spent $ on those shady consultants.</p>