<p>I recently got caught "cheating". So I finished my quiz and wrote down a couple of questions from it on my desk so that I could give them to some of my friends who were in dire need for good grades. My teacher saw my desk and at the end of class she called me over and told me I'd get a zero on the quiz. She also said she'll notify the my counselor. I haven't talked to my counselor yet but I plan to soon. Will this go on my transcript? Also, what should I talk to my counselor about?</p>
<p>Take “cheating” out of quotation marks. Talk to your counselor about taking full responsibility for your actions, and what you will do differently in the future.</p>
<p>Just because a lot of kids do this doesn’t make it okay. This is an opportunity for you. Make things right, with others and with yourself.</p>
<p>I wish you the best with the rest of your academic career!</p>
<p>Transcript isn’t your problem. The problem is with your GC’s letter to colleges. If what you described is true, your only defense, it seems, is to admit your wrong and promise that it will never occur again.</p>
<p>You need to stop now – and to never again – make excuses. Put simply, your were dishonorable, your were caught, and the best things you can do now are:
- Don’t whine or complain
- Accept FULL RESPONSIBILITY
- Take your punishment(s) stoically
- LEARN – really learn – from this serious mistake
- Commit to NEVER doing anything even remotely like this again
- Start to draft your admissions essay now, which explains: (a) that you were stupid, foolish and unethical; (b) that you will NEVER commit academic fraud again; © that you learned important lessons x, y, and z; and finally (d) that you make no excuses, but only request an opportunity to redeem yourself</p>
<p>You will be quite lucky if this doesn’t seriously undermine some of your college dreams. </p>
<p>@TopTier I’m not sure whether this was supposed to be satirical or not lol</p>
<p>It will not say “CHEATER” in bold on your transcript but when counselor and teacher recommendation come they willl definitely affect you.</p>
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Based upon the quality of his other posts, no I do not think he’s trying to be satirical. The advice is spot on.</p>
<p>@kdiddy34: As @skieurope indicated, post #3 is not satire; rather, it is fact-based and I stand by it. Please explain why you believed it might be satire and – more important – what is inappropriate about my recommendations. </p>
<p>"@TopTier You need to stop now – and to never again – make excuses. Put simply, your were dishonorable, your were caught, and the best things you can do now are:
- Don’t whine or complain
- Accept FULL RESPONSIBILITY
- Take your punishment(s) stoically
- LEARN – really learn – from this serious mistake
- Commit to NEVER doing anything even remotely like this again
- Start to draft your admissions essay now, which explains: (a) that you were stupid, foolish and unethical; (b) that you will NEVER commit academic fraud again; © that you learned important lessons x, y, and z; and finally (d) that you make no excuses, but only request an opportunity to redeem yourself"</p>
<p>You seem WAY over-serious. This is on a quiz that more than likely didn’t matter. Chill. I would be willing to bet that if you have a half-decent relationship with your counselor, he’ll understand that it was a fairly minor thing. Just say you were being dumb, you learned your lesson, and you’re sorry. This is in no way a serious mistake. To act like this isn’t a common occurrence in schools/colleges would be quite short-sighted. Just be much more subtle about it and don’t get caught next time is my advice. I honestly doubt that something like this would appear on your transcript, and I highly doubt that you would have to explain yourself for this. Just talk to the teacher individually and appear very remorseful. There’s no need to “redeem yourself.” I commend you for being a team player lol, but I’m sorry you got caught. I have a feeling that unless your teacher has nothing better to do than tell your counselor, she won’t. And I would not ask this teacher for a recommendation, obviously.</p>
<p>But don’t take it too seriously like @TopTier over here is telling you to. </p>
<p>@kdiddy34 You are an excellent excuse maker. You should go into politics. </p>
<p>Sigh, I worry about the next generation when I see posts such as the one by @kdiddy34. Very sad. “I’m sorry you got caught.” Really?? That’s your reaction to the incident?</p>
<p>Cheating IS a big deal. It doesn’t matter if you think everybody does it (they don’t).</p>
<p>Please disregard kdiddy’s advice. Very very bad. </p>
<p>2nd or 3rd everything TopTier had to say.</p>
<p>@TomSrOfBoston I tend to not look at them as excuses, but as reasons. I think that everyone makes mistakes and has lapses in judgment and this realistically is very minor thing that the OP will probably end up learning from, but shouldn’t receive consequences for, and won’t receive consequences for.</p>
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<p>Worst advice I’ve ever seen on CC</p>
<p>@MaineLonghorn Saving questions for your buddies is arguably the most minor form of cheating possible. I AM sorry he/she got caught because you are exceptionally naive to believe that kids don’t share test/quiz questions. OP’s only mistake was actually writing them down on a desk. I’m guessing that you and @celesteroberts are elder “Law & Order” types. I must say, cheating to the degree of what OP did is not taken very seriously at High Schools, and hopefully for OP, won’t be taken very seriously at his/her high school. Should OP be remorseful? Yes. But it is a fairly minor offense, and is something that can and should be let go.</p>
<p>You aren’t serious are you? Just yanking our chains, right?</p>
<p>bobkop: you have a kid giving you advice, and adults giving you advice. Now it’s your turn to decide what you decide to do.</p>
<p>kdiddy: guidance counselors have to indicate what they think of a student’s integrity. A rating that isn’t “good” or “excellent” will raise red flags and at top 100 colleges that’s sufficient to be deferred or rejected. The colleges can also call to get details even if those aren’t provided. If the school has a zero tolerance policy for cheating or an honor code, that first offense will affect the student directly. Now, feel free to use your own advice on yourself and consider cheating a fairly minor offense. But since the number of colleges you’ve been admitted to is, for the moment, zero, I would be very careful.</p>
<p>That’s minor, I cheat on finals</p>
<p>@kdiddy34: Here’s the crux of what you’ve posted to this thread today:
- Don’t get caught and be more subtle in your dishonesty
- Minor and/or common deceitfulness (as if such things existed) is perfectly fine
- The problem isn’t cheating, rather it’s overly zealous attention to ethics . . . and, of course, being detected
- Violation of generally accepted standards of integrity should’t result in serious consequences
- Rationalizations to justify academic fraud and feigned contrition – not true remorsefulness – are adequate to atone (just say the “right,” glib things to the counselor/teacher and forget about your illicit conduct)</p>
<p>I’ll let the facts – delineated above – speak for themselves.</p>
<p>At this moment, youngsters, not very much older than you, are engaged in combat operations in Southwest Asia. In that environment, dishonesty, falsehoods, and lack of integrity easily result in American deaths. This isn’t hyperbole and it isn’t irrelevant (these are principally kids of your age-group). I know, because I have commanded in combat, I’ve seen what the results of duplicity can be, and I’ve been accountable for such kids’ well-being and for their lives.</p>
<p>While the youngsters who serve are essentially your chronological peers, they – thank Heaven – are NOTHING like you. They would find your dishonor, your “anything goes” expediency, and lack of integrity to be both entirely shameful and a true risk to them and to their mission. Think about it, @kdiddy34, because if your values and ethics aren’t radically reformed – and very soon – you are undoubtedly headed for severe trouble. </p>
<p>Whenever students post about being in trouble for cheating, they always blame the teachers who caught them instead of taking responsibility for their own actions. The teacher would not have caught you if you weren’t doing something wrong!</p>
<p>Many students your age are protesting the deaths of black males at the hand of white police officers, and the new torture reports that are about to be made public. Would those deaths have been “wrong” if they hadn’t been witnessed? Was torture okay if it was kept secret?</p>
<p>Let getting caught and the consequences help you to mature, if only for your own sake. Getting caught cheating in high school might well mean being rejected by some colleges, but you will probably be accepted somewhere. Getting caught cheating in college could get you expelled. “Cheating” in whatever form it takes on the job can get you fired or rejected. There is no way to rationalize what you did in a way that makes it acceptable or okay. Man up, apologize, and don’t do it again. </p>
<p>And it’s better in the long run to help those friends learn the material - set up study sessions instead of stealing test question.</p>