<p>okay, so i just had my AP chemistry midterm. The teacher allowed us to use our calculator for the whole test. HE NEVER said that we could not have anything on our calculator and because of this i had solubility rules on the calculator... and he saw them and took my calculator and now im afraid im going to get a 0 and plagarism will go on my final record.</p>
<p>i HATE OUR SCHOOL BC I KNOW I WONT EVEN BE ABLE TO DEFEND MYSELF, THE DEAN WILL JUST SAY NO AND GIVE ME A 0 AND REPOIRT IT TO COLELGES</p>
<p>MY CALCULUS TEACHER TOLD US THAT WE COULD PUT IN ANY PROGRAM WE WANT ON OUR CALCULUATOR BECAUSE THEY DONT ERASE IT ON THE AP EXAM.... WHAT ARGUMENTS CAN I BRING TO SHOW THAT IT WASNT PLAGARISM, AS I KNOW IT WAS LEGAL TO DO</p>
<p>Say there's no reason to memorize those rules. If you become a chemist, you can always look up the rules if you forget. You should be able to on a test as well.</p>
<p>Yes, the Collegeboard permits this, as does your calculus teacher, but this isn't an AP exam or a calculus exam -- it's a chemistry exam, which is administered by your Chemistry teacher. Your chemistry teacher never allowed you to program information into your calculator. </p>
<p>Your teacher may have never said anything, but still, you are cheating. You're having advantages on an exam no other student have. (On an AP exam or calculus test, you would not be considered cheating because these advantages are no longer advantages.) It is somewhat his fault in the sense that he never told you NOT to, but in my opinion, isn't that common sense?</p>
<p>Good luck proving your case. In a way, it's possible..</p>
<p>does anyone know on the actual AP CHEM exam if the reactions are a part II question... what im really asking is if on the actual AP test a calculator is allowed in this section. bc if it is, it would help me tremendously in proving its not cheating</p>
<p>Programming things in isn't exactly cheating. There are notepad applications that help you remember things. You can try saying that you've plugged them in for homework, so that it would be easily to look them up just in case if you forgot the solubility rules. That's one way of looking at it, but it's not a strong point.</p>
<p>I did that all last year........not with solubility rules, but with just about everything else. I think the calc thing is your strongest argument.</p>
<p>If he never said anything about it, it's his fault and not yours. </p>
<p>But I know how public schools can be. My brother once was accused of plagarism because a three-word phrase he used showed up on the internet. Those guys are crazy. </p>
<p>Regardless of the outcome, you'll know exactly what you deserved. And that's all that really counts.</p>
"If he never said anything about it, it's his fault and not yours."</p>
<p>So, if my teacher doesn't say I can't take use my textbook for the test, I'm allowed to use it?
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<p>If he said that you can use your calc but never said anything about plugging in rules, than its his fault. If he said you could use your textbook and didn't elaborate, it would be reasonable to conclude that not only you could look at the chapter in the book, but also the list of constants on the front cover.</p>
<p>mathwiz's argument is sound IMO. The situation w/ programming a calculator is not analagous to merely using a textbook. It is analagous to using a nonspecified portion of the textbook, which I think can hardly be considered cheating. I think this is more of a "Next time ask" kind of situation as opposed to the OP merely deserving a 0.</p>
<p>But when anyone does something wrong they tend to embellish to their advantage, so we may not have the whole story. But as I see it the OP may have done something wrong but certainly not illegal - it may not even be wrong, depending on the circumstance.</p>
<p>You should totally just walk into the guidance office reciting the solubility rules so they know you know them.</p>
<p>As for the textbook thing...what if the teacher lets you use your textbook on a test for all the formulas and to see how all the problems are worked out. It just so happens that one of the test questions is also one of the questions the book provided for practice. You then flip to the back of the book and get the answer. That would be cheating because it's not the section of the book your teacher intended for you to use. His teacher did not intend for him to use a program with solubility rules = cheating, but I should think it is forgiveable.</p>
<p>i agree it was a bit slackerish, but every single kid in the class has them on and no one even knew they werent allowed... why else would i openly do it if I thought it was cheating? when a teacher doesnt specify his policy and allows a powerful calculator on all sections of the test, without telling us to erase memory or even not put anything on it, why should I get in trouble? one of my friends has a new TI calculator that comes with a periodic table and detailed description of each element, giving charges, valence electrons and clearly excess information not found on the official ap chem period table</p>