Cheating

<p>Guys, we even have an honor code at our school, but people still cheat like crazy. Cheating on a vocab quiz is way different than cheating on an AP test. 20 minutes< prep vs. weeks/months of prep. It is a shame that the people that didn’t cheat on tests still get affected, but the OP did did the right thing.</p>

<p>agree with APTester and Gobipie, completely.</p>

<p>If someone cheats, they have to be stopped eventully and Markus10 decided to make the two girls stop before they went into college, its a good desicion on markus’s behalf.</p>

<p>^ Although I do agree with Markus’ action of reporting the cheating, I don’t agree with your reasoning. It’s not his job to stop somebody else from cheating; he is not the “cheating police”. In fact, it probably would have been better to let them get to college, cheat there, get caught, and be done with.</p>

<p>LOL OP collegeboard is going to cancel you’re scores now you should have just kept your mouth shut.</p>

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<p>Well, good luck going through life that way. Hope you don’t get fired from your dream job when you decide not to report your coworker who is stealing company secrets.</p>

<p>^ Fail analogy is fail.</p>

<p>I’d like to bring up the point that if cheating is widespread in AP exams that would no longer be able t be used for college credit, because it would be impossible to see who did the work. The rules against cheating are in place to protect the integrity of the exam so it is actually worth taking. OP you did the right thing.</p>

<p>I feel there are many motives for reporting someone for doing something wrong. One such motive may be to prevent something bad that will affect many people (such as the case pointed above where a coworker is stealing company secrets). I feel that doing something like that is quite noble. </p>

<p>But in the OP’s case I feel that the only motive was to punish two people, something MOST people wouldn’t waste their time and energy doing unless it affected them directly. But anyway congratulations cause you probably just caused the cancellation of all the AP scores from your school. I hope you will learn a lesson rather than those two girls.</p>

<p>That lesson being, “Don’t do the right thing unless it directly helps you out. Remember, it’s not about what is right, but what is easy.”</p>

<p>Right?</p>

<p>I’m saying that “we can’t draw lines between ‘mild cheating’ and ‘serious cheating’”. That means: THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. Reread what I wrote… >.></p>

<p>Also, I have cheated multiple times, again and again throughout high school. I’m not proud of it, but it’s one of the reasons I would never and will never report someone for something like that - something that I, myself, know I am guilty of doing. If you cheat, you cannot in good conscience report another and, honestly, you don’t have the right or privilege of doing that anymore.</p>

<p>Besides, WHY would anyone in his/her right mind report? It’s self-deprecating. There is a high chance that your test will also be invalidated (along with the entire class’s) and then all hell would come down.</p>

<p>Because good people consider things beyond “What will benefit me personally?”</p>

<p>@jumpshooter and the rest who think that you shouldn’t report cheaters because you are selfish: go jump off a bridge. you’re a fool. </p>

<p>@gobipie, amarkov, and the rest who think to report cheaters is okay: I totally agree man!!! :slight_smile: </p>

<p>If you are pliable in by these situation your also a fool. There is no middle ground. markus10 did the right thing to report. I hate lazy people. America is full of them. This thread makes me so sad, that I it keeps making me come here. </p>

<p>“Right is right, even if everyone is against it; and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it.” ~ William Penn</p>

<p>Cheating on this test -and others - not only gave them an advantage on the AP test but also in college admissions. Do you REALLY want these girls getting into good schools off of falsehoods? Taking up spots for people who actually took their own tests and did their own work?</p>

<p>It sucks if things are invalidated, but the OP did the right thing. He’s hardly a snitch to report blatant cheating on a test.</p>

<p>“He’s hardly a snitch to report blatant cheating on a test.”</p>

<p>True, that is the whole point! </p>

<p>Today it seems that we are rewarding those who do bad, and punishing those who do good. Terrible.</p>

<p>Yeah…this isn’t making much sense. Gobpie, you SEEM to have made a good point, but really it’s pretty garbage. There’s a difference between copying homework (minor) and cheating on an AP exam (major). Technically, you’re not considered a cheater for copying homework once or twice, which is something virtually ALL high schoolers are guilty of; however, if you copy religiously, then yes you are a cheater. Cheating on a major worldwide exam is major cheating. I’ve copied a few homework assignments in high school when I haven’t had time, etc, but have NEVER cheated on ANY test or quiz.
Cheating on an AP exam is huge. Reporting is the right thing to do, albeit not the most practical in this situation if it gets blown out of proportion.
But if the OP is correct in saying that they have almost exact answers, then the class’ scores won’t get cancelled. In this case, Kudos to the OP.</p>

<p>For all these people saying that the OP did the right thing, he really didn’t. Although I hate cheating, if I were in this situation, I would try to look at things in a logical manner. If the OP reports it, he’s upheld justice and his own moral code and etc. and life goes on. Also, he places a whole school’s AP scores in jeopardy, his own future chances at college (guidance counselor recommendations), and severe heat from angry students and possible teachers whose students have had their AP scores voided. This isn’t your fight, OP, let it go.</p>

<p>what he did was courageous and moral… no one is arguing that he acted to a very high degree of moral character which matters way more than anything else</p>

<p>way to do the right thing!!!</p>

<p>Welcome to the RL. People are animals, they cheat to get ahead. How else do you think people become rich and famous? Honesty?</p>

<p>To be completely honest, the fact that the proctor didn’t care will probably get all your scores invalidated and the school won’t be allowed to administer anymore AP tests. Guess you’ll learn not to get involved and what happens when you let jealousy cloud your judgement. And it was jealousy, you were afraid they would do better than you. And to be completely honest, if they had to cheat I doubt either of them knew too much.</p>

<p>it’s instances like this where the story of sir thomas more and his execution serve worlds of truth.</p>