Chem 359 vs. chem 357

<p>For any one that has taken either of the courses could you tell me the difficulty of them and possibly the advantages of one over another?</p>

<p>From what I know, the general rule that applies to all cases of regular vs. honors science classes is that regular = easier class but worse curve, while honors = harder class but much better curve</p>

<p>Is orgo that hard?</p>

<p>Chem 359 will be harder despite the curve. My roommate took it and they had way more synthesis problems, etc. on the prelims than Chem 357. If you are a chem major and you love chem, then by all means, take Chem 359-360. If you are just a bio major or premed, then take Chem 357-358.</p>

<p>Orgo is actually pretty reasonable of a class. It's a lot of work but it mirrors the type of work you'll have to do in med school which is why all med schools require organic chem as a prereq. Overall, I found it challenging but not among the toughest courses I took at Cornell.</p>

<p>hmmm....while i am in chem215 now and i feel as tho there is not quite as much competition due to the absence of premed students (maybe in comparison to 207). Does any one know if 357 is a lot more competitive than 359? or if they are similar?
I feel as tho chem 359 may cover more material and be more in depth but it is not as competitive as 357.....?</p>

<p>Trust me, any Chem 215-216 student can easily get an A in Chem 207-208 even though most of the premeds are in Chem 207-208. The two classes aren't comparable. You will realize this when you get to Chem 216, which is a whole different animal from Chem 215.</p>

<p>Let's put it this way, in 4 years at Cornell, I scored below the mean on a prelim 3 times. Twice in Chem 216 and once in a 600-level graduate biophysics course. Competitive or not, the people in Chem 215-216 (and Chem 359-360) are a lot better at chem than premeds.</p>

<p>thank you very much norcalguy</p>