<p>Has anyone taken it yet? Is it really basic?</p>
<p>My son has to take it sometime in the next couple of weeks so if I remember, I will let you know his thoughts. He hasn’t had chem since last year so I guess he will do a quick refresher. I called and asked if we could substitute the SAT chem subject test for the placement test and they said no.</p>
<p>What % on the placement test do you think you need to get to be allowed to take Chemistry (not remedial)? I feel like I did terrible…I hadn’t done chemistry since 10th grade and that was a blur</p>
<p>nakifresh, what was the test like? Short or long? Was it timed?</p>
<p>The test was 40 multiple choice question with five choices available, and I think it was somewhere40-50 minutes ? Although it had said 90…
It was very hard…I looked up a lot of stuff xD
but pretty short like the math placement test</p>
<p>Can anyone tell me what they got on it and did you use the Internet as a resource?</p>
<p>Naokifresh~~Is the chemistry test as hard as the SAT subject test？Or the AP test？
Are there any problems related to calculus in the math test？</p>
<p>I did not take the SAT subject or AP chemistry, so I can’t judge…anyway, what’s on is stuff that if you dont know (or dont know how to find through google) right now, you’re not going to be able to cram for it now…best advice, just take it and get it over with . Good luck ! And then tell me how you did pls~ ^^</p>
<p>I got 18/40 <em>cringe</em> I took chem sophomore year, but I didn’t really remember much, obviously. I did get a good grade on it at the time, but I think the thing that really screwed me over was I could do any of the “if there’s this much of this element, look at this chemical reaction and tell me how much of this other element there will be after the reaction” Most of it with moles and stuff, but others with straight grams.
Most of the ones I did get right were basic math problems that didn’t have anything to do with chem.</p>
<p>You should also know about which of these would make a covalent bond, which of these would make an ionic, I think there was even one on polar or one of those weird ones.</p>
<p>Thank you naokifresh~and proculus
I have finished the test and I got 37/40. It wasn’t as hard as I thought.
I am just surprised at those math questions in the Chemistry test
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<p>hmm that is interesting…I got 27/40 or 68%, it seems like we’re all over the place. I also had chemistry sophomore year @- @ but now i wish i had taken ap chemistry or something.
I heard someone in my school got 63% on it also…</p>
<p>All I’ve read on the website is that if you don’t pass the chem placement test you will need to take the most basic Chem 1011 (Introductory Chemistry) -remedial ?, and if you do pass you can take (i’m assuming) Chem 1021 (Chemistry Principles 1), which is needed for most majors and is also a Physical Science (PHYS) Liberal Education requirement.
I read that here –>[url=<a href=“http://webapps-prd.oit.umn.edu/courses/courses.jsp?campus=UMNTC&designator=CHEM]Twin”>http://webapps-prd.oit.umn.edu/courses/courses.jsp?campus=UMNTC&designator=CHEM]Twin</a> Cities Course Details : University Catalogs : U of M<a href=“see%20the%201st%20and%204th%20classes%20listed”>/url</a>
I also read on a Chemistry 1021 syllabus that you have to “pass the placement test and be formally advised to take chemistry”, or something like this</p>
<p>I don’t know what they mean as passing though</p>
<p>Yeah I’m just not going to take it</p>
<p>Son just took it and got a 34/40. He is frustrated, but I think it is a decent score and I don’t know how much it matters for a physics major. It would be interesting to learn what the score ranges are for placement. He did get a 39/40 on math so that pleased him.</p>
<p>We’re not really sure how these placement tests will be used since D1 took both AP Calc and AP Chem, but she took them both anyway. I would guess that if you received a high enough score on the applicable AP test you’d receive college credit for the classes regardless of how you did on U of Minn’s placement test.</p>
<p>Since D1 will be majoring in Biochemistry, she probably will still take regular Chem freshman year even if she’s eligible to place out of it (won’t get her AP score until July) since I doubt either jumping straight into Org Chem or taking a year off from Chem is a smart choice. We’ll see what her advisor has to say in a little over a week. Orientation already!! Time is flying by!!</p>
<p>@Kajon wait, how did your son get 39/40 on the math placement test? i’m pretty sure it was out of 30…?</p>
<p>@Wolverine86 yeah, you’re right, if you’re doing a full-blown science track (or at least learning Chem 2 afterward) it’s better to have full knowledge of everything so you can get good grades and learn all of the knowledge well instead of struggling through to the next level where it will be even harder (i’ve heard O-chem is tough )…or if your score is on the border of passing and you thought the test was rly hard</p>
<p>^I am thinking the same thing…since I need Chem Principles 1, I’m going to take the regular course first and relearn basic chemistry concepts beforehand so I’m well prepared for Chem 1 (since science has always been my weak suit, it’s best to be safe and not risk a bad grade or being overwhelmed)</p>
<p>I’m nervous about the Chemistry placement test as a PSEO student, since I’ve only taken one semester of Chemistry in ninth grade. I’ve reviewed balancing equations (very easy), molar mass/Avogadro’s #, and remember some basics like bonds, how compounds are named, etc. Am I in danger of failing or doing terribly on it?</p>
<p>Also, what does the math placement test involve? Does it include more advanced trig, conic sections, etc.? Just finished precalculus/trig which is one year ahead of the advanced track at school (I’m a sophomore), so I’d imagine that it wouldn’t be too difficult for me, but I’m still concerned. I’d like to get into Calculus 1 for fall semester but I’m worried I’ll do poorly. (I’ve always gotten As on math tests – and on assignments when I hand them in – if that makes a difference, so will I be okay if I review my precalc/trig notes from this year?)
~~ Actually, although this is a bit off-topic, how much of Calc 1 is brand spanking new stuff versus review? Just curious.</p>
<p>Sorry for the questions, I’m a bit of a worrywart. :)</p>
<p>28/30 on Calc readiness. Hopefully just careless errors, since I want to place into MV Calc with AP credit.</p>
<p>35/40 on Chem. I’m not good at chem, so that test was really easy.</p>
<p>“what does the math placement test involve?”
Mostly precalc. Know your trig.</p>
<p>“how much of Calc 1 is brand spanking new stuff versus review?”
Most of the detail work is new but not that different from earlier math classes. But you need to think a little differently on a conceptual level. I thought the shift was easy, some people don’t get it at all. I wouldn’t worry.</p>
<p>i got 18/40 hmmm NVM i hate chem</p>
<p>@NewtoPSEO</p>
<p>I think you’ll do fine on the math placement. It seemed to be more about being able to think mathematically than anything else, and, of course, use standard mathematical concepts correctly (like being able to simplify an unusual equation, so you would need to recognize a good method to do that).</p>
<p>I took calc 1 this last year as a high school senior, and it is new material. We reviewed a bit in the beginning, but then you go through a bunch of new material just like any other class. You take derivatives, anti-derivatives/integrals, those but with LN functions, e, variables in the exponent, logs, sin/cos/tan/sec/csc/cot/arcsin/arccos/etc, find the area between two curves and the volume between two curves when rotating around x-axis/y-axis/any other line, volume using standard shapes (conic sections), etc.</p>
<p>Its hard to say exactly how much you might review because I took a high school class, not a college one, but there was only really a brief review in my class. We did, however, start off with pretty easy new material. You kind of have to start easy because you have to learn the easy, basic stuff before you can build into the hard stuff. You have to know what a derivative is before you can find the area between three curves when rotating around x=4, you know?</p>
<p>I appreciate all the comments on how it was and the scores received. One question still remains for me is that whether or not you guys finished quickly or spent the full amount of time on the test.</p>