<p>If asian students do not perform well, they dishonor their respective families (anything under a 2300 SAT is unacceptable). Then ritual suicide must be committed to harness what little honor they have left. Trust me, I know from personal experience...</p>
<p>Your personal experience does not generalize the whole asian population.</p>
<p>Stereotype.</p>
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If asian students do not perform well, they dishonor their respective families (anything under a 2300 SAT is unacceptable). Then ritual suicide must be committed to harness what little honor they have left. Trust me, I know from personal experience...
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<p>Hyperbole is a tool best left to better writers.</p>
<p>Commit ritual suicide? oO; Hello, that's japanese.Last Samurai is a good movie. Anyhoo --; I don't think other Asian types would commit suicide. To dishonor their family? Yes, that's somewhat true. But still, If I dishonor my family, I would get punish. --; I wouldn't commit suicide. :]</p>
<p>Yeah. Get yer asians straight. ;)</p>
<p>In my case, my family cares a lot about my education and has done a lot for me, but there's no cutthroat pressure to get a 2300 SAT. Eh, well, I got a 2160. But I'm still Asian. My asianness has not been stripped from me.</p>
<p>i think asian parents sometimes push their kids so hard to get into Harvard just so they can brag or,rather, revel in the glory of the name. I mean, I guess they don't want to be discussing their children with other asian parents (whose children all have gone to Harvard coincidentially) and have to mumble under their breathe that little Becky went to UCLA (gasp!). I mean if I got a full ride to say UT but I also got accepted to YAle with no financial aid, my parents would probably force me to go to Yale even if I'd have to massive amounts of loans and go through hardships etc...</p>
<p>LOL. I think my asian parents just want me to do my best. If I got into Yale with no finaid but like UW with all, I'd go to Yale cuz I want to. Yeah, I did horrible on SAT, but that doesn't mean I'm not asian (I did wayyyy better on verbal than math too)</p>
<p>i just think the culture is different. China is more intellectually oriented - I grew up in not nec. super rich or pressure household, but everyone who came to our house/my parents were friends with were v. intellectual (i.e. Harvard, Stanford graduates, etc.) So then all the people you have to look up to or who you have as patterns are v. motivated smart people and so you push yourself a lot to match up.</p>
<p>Asian parents just want what's best for their kids. They care a lot. They want their kids to have things they never have. :] So I don't blame them for pushing so hard on me either.</p>
<p>UCLAri, I found your comment to be quite fascinating. Do you really think that my comment accurately reflects my capabilities as a writer? If so you are sadly mistaken. I prefer to save my pulitzer-prize winning posts for a more selective audience. I guess I'll have to take my 730 SAT II writing, as well as my hopes and dreams, and discard them because of your vituperative comment. Good luck succeeding in the business world under the pretense that you are better than everyone else. You better pray President Bush doesn't totally **** up our government; you may need the welfare checks.</p>
<p>Ouch......</p>
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UCLAri, I found your comment to be quite fascinating. Do you really think that my comment accurately reflects my capabilities as a writer? If so you are sadly mistaken. I prefer to save my pulitzer-prize winning posts for a more selective audience. I guess I'll have to take my 730 SAT II writing, as well as my hopes and dreams, and discard them because of your vituperative comment. Good luck succeeding in the business world under the pretense that you are better than everyone else. You better pray President Bush doesn't totally **** up our government; you may need the welfare checks.
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<p>First of all, a 730 on the SAT II writing section is hardly indicative of good writing. I outscored you by a clear margin on that test years ago, and I'm hardly the best writer I've met. Moreover, using twenty-dollar words like "vituperative" does not make you a better writer and thinker either. Clear, concise thought, on the other hand, does. That's what your post lacked. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, you further displayed your penchant for slippery slope argumentation in this previous post, by suggesting that I meant for you to discard your hopes and dreams. I merely criticized your argument and suggested that you leave out a poorly used literary device. How you came to the further conclusion is beyond my ability to comprehend. And as far as the business world is concerned, I have no plans to work in business (Im looking to pursue work in the policy world) so your ad hominem attack fails at all levels.</p>
<p>Ill end this diatribe with one more thing: Using a standardized test score as meaningless as the SAT II to elevate your person above mine is petty and weakens your argument.</p>
<p>"using twenty-dollar words like "vituperative" does not make you a better writer and thinker either."</p>
<p>Well isn't this a little odd? You happened to implore the use of "20-dollar" words like penchant, ad hominem, and diatribe. Maybe you should stop and think for a minute before you contradict your own advice. Yet, let us put a close to this ludicrous conversation.</p>
<p>Yes, I admit it was low of me to use such an insignificant factor as my SAT II score, but then again it was ignorant of you to judge my writing ability on a internet post I created in a minimal amount of time. In conclusion, both of our arguments are strung with ambiguity and based solely on irrational assumptions about one another. I do appologize for my harsh remarks, but I respectfully hope you will do the same.</p>
<p>madskier,</p>
<p>You missed my point. Your use of vituperative is hardly warranted because there are better, more concise words that convey the same message. On the other hand, "ad hominem" is the best word in the particular situation. If you can offer me a better alternative to the words you mentioned, I'll certainly agree. Otherwise, my diction stands.</p>
<p>Again, you're missing the point: I'm not attacking your writing as a whole, merely that particular post. Don't be so worried about your writing, I'm sure it's fine. I just think that particular post was poorly conceived.</p>
<p>Rose is a retard? Ouch...o.o dude don't tell me you guys are battling about words now are you? --;</p>
<p>Well let's be honest here, this whole thread was hardly an intellectual debate of titanic proportions.</p>
<p>"Asian parents are tough!"
"Yeah!"
"You're all racist!"
"Yeah!"</p>
<p>And repeat.</p>
<p>^_^ If you would like an intellectual debate :] I think you should debate with Nom! He's pretty good at it! >] Don't deate against me. I'm not good at it. xP</p>
<p>If you were looking for an intellectual debate, join Mensa or something. And by the way, I never questioned you motives during our argument: I assumed you were there solely to bully me around. See my prior post about the danger of assumptions...</p>
<p>people here are so uptight...</p>
<p>yeah, like you could stick a piece of coal in their ass and have a diamond in 5 seconds</p>