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Berkeley doesn't have honors because it would be redundant. :D</p>
<p>I've never heard it called Berk. Egh</p>
<p>UCBChemGrad -- how much PF/ Student interaction did you have?</p>
<p>brownflavors,</p>
<p>harvard/yale law schools used to list the number of undergrads from each school but i haven't seen it lately. cornell/berkeley have higher numbers but once you factor the student population, northwestern is at least higher than berkeley (only slightly though; not a huge difference). i am not sure about cornell.</p>
<p>i believe nu is ranked the highest among the 4 in wsj ranking but the methodology is controversial and a lot of peple don't like it. again, the difference isn't day and night anyway. also, it includes bus and med also, not just law. some may say maybe northwestern has more students inclinded to apply for prof schools but then northwestern has substantial number of students in communications, theater, music...etc too.</p>
<p>there's a legal studies adjunct major at nu (fairly competitive to get in) for which some of the classes are taught by prof from nu law school.</p>
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UCBChemGrad -- how much PF/ Student interaction did you have?
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I personally didn't do a lot of faculty interaction. I attended office hours quite a few times but that was about it.</p>
<p>You can have more faculty interaction by going to office hours, talking to profs after class, engaging in undergrad research etc.</p>
<p>I saw some law school matriculation data for Harvard and Yale which I think is for either this year's enrollment or last year's enrollment:</p>
<p>6 to Yale, 45 to Harvard coming from Cornell
7, 20 Northwestern
5, 23 U Michigan
16, 48 UC Berkeley</p>
<p>I would caution you from reading too much into these numbers as the admissions process for law schools is dependent on so much more than what college you went to as an undergrad.</p>
<p>Hawkette -- fascinating. Would you mind finding the source for this?</p>
<p>I can't find those statistics. I did find this -- which I am not sure if I am interpreting correctly, but has different results than those you found.
(Career</a> Center - Profile of Law School Admissions - UC Berkeley)</p>
<p>student:faculty ratio:
UCB 15.0
Northwestern 11.8
Michigan 14.2
Cornell: not listed</p>
<p>So if all else equal, you have a better chance in landing a research prof with a professor at NU. :D</p>
<p>brownflavors,</p>
<p>hawketts' numbers include all law school students, not just the first year.</p>
<p>NU at a cost. There are tradeoffs. You can pay more at NU if you need to have them hold your hand in comfort, spoon feed you, and wipe your nose and ass.</p>
<p>Cal at least airs all of its dirty laundry...like the law school admission stats. The other schools make you pay more because they give the illusion they are better, all while witholding critical info.</p>
<p>Hey, maybe NU/Cornell end up cheaper. Won't you like those services with no extra cost? I think I enjoy people wiping my nose and ass. ;)</p>
<p>Nah...that's gross. Why live like an 80 year old guy when you're young and in the prime of your life?</p>
<p>yea..it's gross...that never happen to me at NU...but you were the one that said it first and i just played along. :D</p>
<p>brownflavors,
I did some research last year on enrolling law school students from top colleges. I had hoped that more law schools would provide the detail, but the availability was less than I had hoped and so it was hard to draw any definitive conclusions other than undergrads from the same school were usually admitted/enrolled at a much higher percentage. The only other conclusion is that these top law schools have a great breadth of undergrad colleges represented among their law school classes. I really think that those who pick a college based on law school matriculates to a Yale or a Harvard is making too many assumptions and ignoring the reality that a student can make it from almost anywhere if he/she has the goods. </p>
<p>The data that I collected and presented above came directly from the websites for Yale and for Harvard.</p>
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<p>hawketts' numbers include all law school students, not just the first year.
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<p>this is wrong. Hawkette's number is just for first year. my dad is HLS alum and I am an aspring law student, so i happen to know quite a bit about law school admissions. Although this number suggests that cornell students might have an edge, I don't think this is much of difference from other schools. Ultimately, anyone who wants to make it into Harvard/Yale law school would need to have at least 3.8 gpa and last over 170. w/o it, you ain't gonna get into H or Y law schools from Cornell, NU, or Umich. The only advantageous situation is when someone goes to HYPS. Remember, over a quarter of the entire student body at HLS are students from Harvard undergrad and the adcoms do cut a bit of slack with HYPS grads, but not Cornell or other schools. So, OP shouldn't choose a school based on this law placement thing.</p>
<p>no, that's not for the first year. look at those numbers again, the total is already 130 just out of those 4 schools. we haven't included those from HYPS, the rest of Ivies, Duke...etc. HLS isn't that big. i agree with the rest of your post.</p>
<p>Browflavors, here are some numbers to consider: In the 2006-2007 academic year, 900 Michigan students applied to Law School. Of those, 735 (82%) were admitted into a Law School. Here are some interesting stats on the Law schools Michigan students decided to attend:</p>
<p>NATIONAL 14
University of Michigan Law School: 91 admitted, 46 enrolled
Harvard University Law School: 17 admitted, 14 enrolled
Georgetown University Law School: 39 admitted, 13 enrolled
Northwestern University Law School: 23 admitted, 7 enrolled
Columbia University Law School: 22 admitted, 6 enrolled
New York University Law School: 25 admitted, 5 enrolled
University of California-Berkeley (Boalt Hall): 12 admitted, 4 enrolled
University of Virginia: 25 admitted, 4 enrolled
Cornell University: 33 admitted, 3 enrolled
University of Chicago: 16 admitted, 3 enrolled
University of Pennsylvania: 13 admitted, 2 enrolled
Yale University: 3 admitted, 2 enrolled
Stanford University: 6 admitted, 1 enrolled
Duke University: 28 admitted, none (0) enrolled</p>
<p>A total of 110 enrolled into the N14 Law Schools. That's a pretty normal number for Michigan. Each year, anywhere from 100 and 150 will enroll into those top Law Schools. </p>
<p>OTHER TOP 25 LAW SCHOOLS:
Fordham University Law School: 41 admitted, 11 enrolled
George Washington University Law School: 55 admitted, 11 enrolled
Boston University Law School: 52 admitted, 9 enrolled
Emory University Law School: 27 admitted, 7 enrolled
University of California-Los Angeles Law School: 19 admitted, 5 enrolled
University of Iowa Law School: 17 admitted, 5 enrolled
University of Minnesota Law School: 10 admitted, 4 enrolled
University of Notre Dame Law School: 20 admitted, 4 enrolled
University of Texas-Austin Law School: 20 admitted, 4 enrolled
Washington University-St Louis: 16 admitted, 4 enrolled
Boston College Law School: 27 admitted, 3 enrolled
University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign Law School: 30 admitted, 3 enrolled
Vanderbilt University Law School: 10 admitted, 2 enrolled
University of Southern California Law School: 24 admitted, 1 enrolled
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill Law School: 6 admitted, none (0) enrolled
University of Washington Law School: 7 admitted, none (0) enrolled</p>
<p>A total of 73 enrolled into the next 10-15 top Law schools in the nation. </p>
<p>Cal, Cornell and NU all have impressive placement rates into Law schools as well. Attending any of those 4 universities will open any door with equal ease, assuming a student has competitive stats to back her/his application.</p>
<p>There is no wrong choice here. Four outstanding options which will all get you to where you want to go. Law school admission is largely, but not exclusively, determined by your LSAT score and GPA. Regarding post #28: Student/Faculty Ratio = UCal Berkeley 15/1, Northwestern University 7/1, Michigan 15/1, & Cornell University 10/1.</p>
<p>Alexandre -- interesting data. I think looking at the enrolled statistics is pretty telling (the admitted statistics could be the kid who got into Yale law also getting into 4 other schools). Thanks!</p>
<p>Would you happen to know where Northwestern or Cornell might release comparable data?
Berkeley does here: Career</a> Center - Profile of Law School Admissions - UC Berkeley</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>