Class of 2020 RD Dicussion

@99adenti : Uhm no on the ORM thing. They either like your app. and essays or they don’t. It would be more about a hobby or interests that make you stand out than your ethnicity. The fact that they and even females are “over-represented” is telling. Right great essays because as of now, your app and what you told us doesn’t make you particularly stand out. Show them how you think in the essays and you should have a shot if they are good though.

it makes me feel really bad when it says “estimated cost of attendance”: $58,900 and “estimated need”: 0

like who wants to pay that much…
this is for Oxford btw

@ohio101 Yea, CMU gives me like 48k but Emory gives me 14k

ooh that’s rough…oxford is pretty crappy with financial aid :confused: Emory’s package was 15k tho (not including loans)… .and now I’m not sure which college to choose… any advice? :smiley:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/1876264-uc-berkeley-vs-ucla-vs-ut-austin-vs-emory.html#latest

@XAtlas : Did you get merit from CMU? If not, then Emory still REALLY needs to work on need based aid (actually, regardless it does). Emory doesn’t effectively buy students like its near peers (including CMU) so has no chance of winning cross-admit battles with hardly any of them even if the student is interested. This has been a problem for years. Other schools adjusted their need aid programs. Emory’s was competitive for a minute and then others became far more aggressive, even straining resources to make it happen.

@bernie12 CMU gave me a grant for $48,633 and Emory gave me a grant for $6,000

I got no money. What can I do to get more aid?

@XAtlas : honestly, I would make a point of telling them about the differential in a competing need-based offer from a significantly less endowed school. I feel like they need to hear it until they actually act on it (they need to act quickly. Increasing merit scholarship endowments have little effect as only maybe 100 or so can be recruited from that and that is a generous estimate). I know Emory College itself isn’t that rich, but CMU vs. Emory? Emory has almost 4 times their endowment overall so I know the arts and letters entity must be at least comparable. Emory needs to make it happen. If we can’t win over a CMU admit w/need-based aid, no wonder we can’t win a Vanderbilt, Rice, or GeorgeTown cross-admit.Emory already can hardly compete with these schools perhaps because of this largely and will lose its advantage over schools it currently does well against (don’t get me wrong, CMU is AT LEAST on the same academic level as any of the schools between 15 and 25, but it shouldn’t be able to beat them by paying more. That makes no sense).

@bernie12 Yea, I received offers similar to CMU from Vandy and Hopkins. To be honest, I prefer Emory out of all these choices but received significantly the least amount of money. Thanks for the info, I will call them on Monday to ask.

Is Emory really generous with aid or not?

@jjuart16: Emory is significantly more generous than most publics in terms of need based and even most privates. It just isn’t anywhere near as generous as its peers and knows it (there is a report where they concede that this is a HUGE issue), but is not resolving the problem fast enough. If it wasn’t for Emory’s new plateau in app. numbers (still hovering around 20k even when the “bump” from last years events is gone, thus far exceeding my expectations), it would continue to fall behind in the admissions race. In addition, it will never have truly comparable enrolled students stats to its peers and other similar schools (even lower ranked ones, except some publics are higher). As far as I am concerned, it should not aim to do what places like WUSTL, Chicago, or Vandy are doing, but should at least be aggressive enough to successfully recruit students with the same stats as GeorgeTown. The two were essentially identical in this category and then GT (actually both GT’s including Georgia Tech) pulled away. These failings can easily be attributed to the relatively noncompetitive aid. Until it fixes it, it has to rely on merit aid which is really tricky since much more stats sensitive and higher ranked schools also tend to throw merit aid at super high scoring students

Emory is more holistic so can likely yield or get excellent students at the scholars interview , but it is not as easy to yield some of the highest scorers among them, especially those admitted elsewhere whether it be another private or public honors/fellows program. I don’t like the idea of padding the score range like this (because many lower scorers may technically be better in terms of accomplishments or the culture Emory wants to build), but it is a necessary evil of wanting to be perceived in the same league as competitors. If Emory can get itself in the magical 1300-1500 range for enrollees consistently, then more folks will take it seriously and then it can shape the way it wants to but within that range (as in, it becomes less difficult to yield higher scorers that have the qualities Emory wants and it may also receive more apps from such students).

I got $10,000 merit scholarship from Emory.

I got an email from Emory Financial Aid office requesting other financial aids from other school I got accepted and promise will reevaluate my aid package, Anybody got the same email?

@Bossof9000 did u email them about needing more aid first? Or, did they just send u that info on their own?

It came last night to both of my parents and I never ask more aid even though I do need more. Here is the email

Emory’s commitment to helping you finance your student’s education.

STUDENTAID.EMORY.EDU

Dear Parent/Guardian of XXXXX

Congratulations on XXX’s acceptance to Emory College of Arts and Sciences! We are celebrating with all of you on this great achievement.

We recently emailed Benjamin to let them know of Emory’s commitment to making an education affordable to all qualified students. Emory’s Office of Financial Aid strives to meet the full demonstrated need of our admitted students. Through Emory Advantage we have reduced borrowing for families with incomes below $100,000.

We also know that there can be different ways to calculate a family’s ability to contribute to college costs, as evidenced by the wide range of need-based awards you may have received from other highly selective institutions.

COMPETITIVE FINANCIAL AID
To best support you and your student as you make this important decision, we would like the opportunity to review XXX’s Emory financial aid award in light of what they may have received from other highly selective schools.

If your student has received a need-based financial aid award from any of the following institutions, please share it with us:

Brown University Northwestern University
California Institute of Technology Princeton University
Columbia University Rice University
Cornell University Stanford University
Dartmouth College University of Chicago
Duke University University of Pennsylvania
Georgetown University Vanderbilt University
Harvard University Washington University in St. Louis
Johns Hopkins University Yale University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

To have XXX’s Emory financial aid award reviewed in relation to a need-based award from any of these schools, please have them complete this online form. They will need to upload digital copies of admission offers and the award letter(s) received from any of the schools listed above. For further consideration, this form must be submitted by Monday, April 11, 2016. Emory’s Office of Financial Aid will respond with any possible adjustments no later than Monday, April 18.

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@Bossof9000 Thanks, good thing Vandy and Hopkins is in that list.

@Bossof9000 : So I am going to guess they likely want to compete for certain students because others did not receive it or did every non-merit person receive it. If just you so far, congrats on being a hot commodity. Also glad Emory is trying to do something even if it looks desperate in trying (okay, well technically all schools look desperate except the very top ones in this admissions arms race we have now-a-days. Emory is just more honest and transparent with it). Realistically, Emory should be able to compete with: Vanderbilt, Hopkins, WUSTL, Rice, GeorgeTown, Brown, Duke, Dartmouth (apparently Emory actually wins some cross-admits from Dartmouth already…the others…nope!) and NU in terms of amount of need-based aid it is able to offer (going kind of by endowment).

I received that email as well but I didn’t even apply to any of those schools. I am going to visit from the 14th-16th of April and will try to talk to the FA office to talk about my package and ask more about the cost of attendance. I am waiting on my FA notification from Northeastern University and see if they plan on giving me more or around the same amount as Emory did.

So, it turns out they accidentally duplicated my parents income. They fixed the problem and gave me around 52k topping my offers from CMU, Vandy, and Hopkins. Choosing a school has just became more difficult.

@XAtlas : What are you thinking of majoring in?