The UChicago website says the class size for the class of 2019 was 1537. The 2020 FB page had just over 1,700 members two weeks ago and now is down around 1660 since May 1st. Do you think they have increased the incoming class size by 100 or so?
I think there are still some kids on the FB page who are going elsewhere. There’ll also be kids who don’t have FB or haven’t joined that page. It’s a decent proxy for class size, but I doubt it’s accurate except to the nearest 200 or so.
@NotVerySmart I did some quick back of the envelope calculations and it looks like after North Residential Commons was added to the housing mix and the space lost due to the closing down of the 5 older properties was taken into account, the College has around 125 more beds available this year than last year. I think they will increase enrollment by around 100 for this year.
It also looks like they are planning another Dorm based on this quote.
It’s possible class size is increasing, but I don’t know if the difference will be 125. Chicago has also been trying to keep more students on campus for 4 years, in order to make students’ housing choices more similar to the residential experience at some of its peers. Assuming slow but steady progress towards that goal, the class of 2016 would have fewer students living on campus than the classes of 2017, 2018, and 2019, and thus free up fewer spaces than an average of all students would suggest.
We will have to wait and see I guess. Here is a blurb from the Maroon that seems to bear out my speculation
The new house in I-house will have 100 students and the administration is asking all grads to move out. I-House currently houses 65 graduate students and 311 undergraduates.
They are replacing around 675 beds with around 900 extra beds for undergraduates on campus. That’s over 220 beds. Some undoubtedly will be offered to existing undergrads, but I have to believe a good number will go to the freshman class.
They’re going to build a new dorm south of the midway where the Harris School is after they move Harris to New Grad. Boyer’s book specifically mention it. They are trying to shift campus further south - the new dorm is going with the new student center they’re building where the Mott building used to be on Kenwood and 60th.
As stated by someone on Overheard who worked closely with the long term planning division, the idea is:
“1. Sell off miscellaneous buildings and dorms in Hyde Park.
2. Build massive shiny new dorms around campus. [and the new student center]
[also change their admissions policy to admit the ivy-league types and more students]
3. Glom up land on Garfield and 63rd.
3a. Obama Library.
3b. Turn Garfield and 63rd into “arts” and “commercial” corridors respectively, connect to campus, add UCPD presence.
4. Court big developers and young professionals in Hyde Park.
5. Rent in Hyde Park goes up, fewer apartment options for students.
6. Increased percentage of students living in housing.
7. ???
8. Profit.
9. No, actually, profit.
[We’re basically just Yale at this point]”
Frankly I think it’s pretty despicable, but it isn’t going to change unless they get rid of Zimmer and Nondorf and hire people with a similar ethos to the old administration.
Where does the O’Hare style tunnel with a moving walkway under the Midway come in?
Lol, posted this in the wrong thread…
UChicago and most other top private not-for-profit schools lose money educating every student. According to the IPEDS data, UChicago spends $92,382 every year on each student, clearly their COA is lower than that. Of that $66,200 is spent on instruction. So 71% of cost is dedicated to teaching related activities. Yale on the other hand only spends 64% of its total costs per student on Instruction, Princeton only 44% and Harvard 49%. UChicago only spends 6.5% on Operations and maintenance whereas Princeton spends 18%.
So its not as if Chicago is spending ungodly amounts of money on “expensive dorms” and shafting its students. Just saying…
Sorry, last post was mistakenly posted in this thread
@VeryLuckyParent - I asked an admission rep about the incoming class and undergrad size at an admitted student event. He said the target incoming class size was ~1500 and The College would be ~6000 undergrads.
@BonaMaterFiliae Good to know, Although…
https://registrar.uchicago.edu/sites/registrar.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/Census-Spring%202016.pdf
Notice how during Spring 2016 the total Undergraduate size was around 5,600. Unless the 6,000 is really meant to be 5,600 it still makes me wonder how they get to approx 6,000 without increasing enrollment, given that the class of 2016 was also around 1,500.
Anyway only time will tell. Will just have to wait and watch.
Maybe more current students want to fill the spare beds and move from off campus to on campus housing this year.
@VeryLuckyParent I’m a bit unclear by what you said … the admission rep confirmed that UChi IS increasing enrollment to 1500 per class, which will eventually total ~6000 undergrads in The College.
Thanks for sharing the link! I had searched for UChi’s common data set and learned that they don’t publish it so good to know about registrar reports.
Current class size is already 1537. So if they keep it at 1,500 then there is no increase. Earlier, I was speculating that they may increase the class size to over 1,600 based on two data points
- FB class of 2020 member page count right now stands at around 1,680 (even if you discount many of the folks as not being freshman or even planning to matriculate to UChicago, I would think we would be higher than 1,500)
- The number of new beds for undergraduate students is over 200, compared to last year. Somebody must occupy these beds. Who will it be? Will it all be existing students or will there be an increase in the class size of incoming freshman to fill the extra beds?
Anyway, as I said, will just have to wait and see
Could it be that a small portion of student body has dropped out or taken a very long leave of absence?
Say, each of class of 2017 and 2018 has 1425, each of class 2016 and 2019 has 1525. So the total college size would be 5900. The spring 2016 saw 5600 enrolled. So there are 300 missing, which is about 5% of the supposed college size. Remember the college’s six-year graduation rate is 93%. So most of the missing students from the supposed college size could have dropped out or taken a long leave?
@VeryLuckyParent not everyone in the group is going yo UChicago. Some People committed elsewhere but stayed in
@tutututututuru Yes, I already stated this in my earlier post. The question is how many? Also I am sure there are some who are admitted, will be matriculating, but don’t have face book accounts
@VeryLuckyParent I’m guessing there are more without Facebook accounts who got in then there are people who got in and stayed in the group and turned them down, but I have no evidence to back that up.
@jarrett211 @VeryLuckyParent Oh, I agree with you both. I didn’t have a facebook either, and made one to join the group. I would honestly be shocked though if there are much more than 1680 kids coming in this year. That’s just such an astronomical increase. Good things for UChicago’s yield %, but bad as far as like, actually having space for students.
@tutututututuru Yeah. Regardless of what the class size is I believe ultimately does not matter if it’s in a reasonable range. I’m really happy to see a high yield this year, particularly the EA yield, because that means the students are really passionate about Chicago.